What??
Take your bitcoins somewhere else and actually put effort into comments.
No bitcoin miner in EVE plz.
Some really smart people in this thread
Whatâs difficult to understand here?
I donât mind explaining any concepts you cannot comprehend in such a way you are able to understand it.
EVE already takes up a ton of power/resources.
A bitcoin miner takes up more power/resources. Why do we need to have PCs/Laptops going all out playing a game and making a bitcoin? After power usage people are left with scraps and it destroys the environment. I know no solar panels are powering all those GPUs mining bitcoin. No solar panels are powering EVE online also. 
Why do we need to have a bit coin miner in EVE? Like adding something for the sake of adding something as it doesnât meaningfully extend anything to the game.
I will leave this quote here.
There is no secret method to becoming rich while mining bitcoin⌠It will not happen in EVE. And if people usually are dedicated bitcoin miners, they would probably not play EVE because they would want to lower their power usage and put it towards more bitcoin. I tend to think I know enough about the concept to say itâs a power-hungry application. So yes, I will counter these ideas with the most prejudice. Devs donât add things to the games for the sake of adding it to the game thatâs a horrible business model.
Why is this a bad thing?
To open up premium options to those who otherwise would not have them.
What exactly do you mean by this?
Well I am going to stay within the OP here. But EVE already takes up a ton of PC resources and power. So yes, a bitcoin miner that takes up MORE power is not really ideal.
You play EVE online or you mine bitcoin. Just donât mix the two.
Large warehouses of GPUs running to produce more bitcoin is a horrible impact for the environment. Especially when itâs all pixels and nothing in the real world. (I would like to stay within OP as there is a thread talking about bitcoin here on EVE Forums but felt it was important to point out and supports the resource usage argument)
If a person is struggling that hard to pay CCP $20 or less if you buy in bulk idk if a person should be playing videogames. The thinking should NEVER be⌠âIf I only made a few more dollars a day I can afford this sub.â This game is made for disposable income NOT the people on the margins of paying a $20 sub or not.
That is a paper-thin argument for the idea and if thatâs all you got I donât know what to say.
Utilities included rental agreements.
Kids whoâs parentâs pay the bills.
Two examples I can immediately think of; of people who are not going to care theyâre using more power, they will be able to take advantage of premium services using an integrated miner in their client would provide.
I doubt bitcoin produces more value than the power it consumes to mine so I donât think anyone who pays their own electric bill would be in the slightest bit interested. But pretending no one would be interested in this is a fallacy.
That is a really sad excuse of deflecting off of the core issue that bitcoin miners use extra power to create just more pixel credits.
But also pretending those 2 core groups will support the massive investment, maintenance, and dev hrs is also a fallacy. You need a broad swath of people who might like this idea and I can say with certainty that most EVE players are not kids or are people who rent on the margins of society.
You donât even deny that it bitcoin mining uses an absurd amount of power along with the EVE client also from that reply. (Yes GPU go brrr when EVE client runs.) No not everyone wants to play EVE in potato mode.
I donât think using more electricity is an issue. Why is that an âissue?â
You keep making this point, you need to provide and explanation why using power is âbad.â
This is going nowhere lol.
So, I will just quote myself to answer.
Alright I already answered this also.
Itâs the same quote
To further kill the arguement in every possible way I will remind you by quoting this also.
Bitcoin mining adds nothing productive to society when there are rows and rows of GPUs Running 24/7 to make 1 person/group money. Please keep it away from the great game that is EVE Online.
Until bitcoins can entertain me like videogames idk until then.
- You appear to agree that bitcoin mining uses tons of power beyond ânormalâ use (Something needs to run those GPUs at full capacity)
- You appear to agree that EVE online is a resource intensive game.
- You appear to agree that a serious bitcoin miner will not waste GPU space on a videogame that doesnât produce more bitcoin.
- You didnât push back on the fact warehouses full of GPUs running 24/7 is not great for the environment. (What value do those places add?) (What value does EVE x Bitcoin miner add to society?)
Please respond when you have more points to add to your side of the debate because I got my cards on the table.
Your point seems to be that using electricity is bad, I just donât believe that. Whether itâs a small or large amount.
Please donât take my points out of context. You donât even bother to quote the specific points I make. I donât really think you are really enthusiastic about bitcoin judging from your responses.
I donât know where you live, or if you pay your own power, but my power bill has gone up by ~30% in the last 12 months while my consumption has gone down.
This whole concept of a bitcoin miner in the EVE client is terrible.
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I keep telling her that but ironically she thinks electric bills get paid out of thin air.
I wish my power bill got paid out of thin air.
It gets paid out of my wallet and seems to want an ever larger chunk of its meagre contents.
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My house is powered using a geo-thermal vent, having a bitcoin miner on my system will cost me exactly zero.
What have you two done to reduce your power bills? have you boycotted the energy companies? voted out your current representatives? Anything like that?
but you can just run a bitcoin miner beside your eve client?
why not build it into your web browser instead? or your instant messenger? or your music player?
Why not build bitcoin miners into EVERY piece of software you install?
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Wow cool! Happy for you.
Many people in America canât do what you do. I darn wish I had a $0 electric bill. I would have my house always at 72 degrees year-round. My house isnât ideal for solar panels. No room for a tall windmill in my small lot. Quite sure there are no hot springs where I am at near the great lakes. I donât live next to a nuclear power plant so idk. 
Easier said than done and really speaks to your indifferent tone throughout this entire thread towards my valid points. I make my paycheck I come home to rest, and I save money for my retirement.
Thanks for sharing that it really makes more since why you are so indifferent about what I have been saying for this entire thread. I really wish you did share that three posts ago so it would have saved me a lot of effort.
I think because of this very fundamental difference in lifestyle you will never see what life is like in my shoes or the millions of other people who canât have geothermal energy, solar, wind, or cheap nuclear energy to power their communities.
So again. if you want to have a serious discussion about what OP said and my very valid points, I encourage you to have an open mind to what most of America has to go through and pay higher energy bills. There are real environmental concerns to industrial bitcoin mining and more business points on why this should be kept very far away from EVE Online.
Just pointing out that I am NOT American.
The US isnât the only country with surging power prices.
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Fair point. I do it through my POV 
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