No, it is realism. CCP has made attempt after attempt to fix capitals and has failed utterly in all of them. At this point there is no evidence to suggest that balancing capitals is something they are able to do, and the only rational conclusion is that CCP should accept that this is something beyond their skills and delete the class. A game with no capitals at all is better than one where CCP continues doing nothing to make them a balanced and reasonable part of the game.
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Shes right.
CCP cannot be trusted to know what to do.
Caps suck.
Ergo, remove caps.
Why is that so ridiculous a concept? (apart from they cant be trused to get that right and would just remove hats instead probably)
Its called a recall, companies do it all the time.
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Yea it would actually be amazing if CCP did something like this but they wonât do it. CCP doesnât care about your experience.
CCP actually doesnât care about 90% of its populations experience. CCP would much rather have a BOT than a poor player because a BOT doesnât take any development and still drives up the cost of Plex so the Whales money goes farther.
CCP only cares about the experience of the Whale and unfortunately for the rest of us, Whales want tools that allow them to throw their credit card at the game for an insurmountable advantage. A la cap ships.
no, recall is because the company needs to patch the existing product.
Good thing, CCP does not need to recall to patch.
So itâs ridiculous as a concept because your only solution to a problem is to wipe everything. This is a negative-value strategy, as you waste dev time on something that is removed afterwards.
Caps have a role : they allow to transmit WHEN YOU SCREAM have a role of corporation-level asset that is a projection of power : carriers are⌠carriers, dreads are nuclear subs and titans are⌠weird but in the sense they do bring several things together.
The only issue is that they scale in effect and their EHP mean that they just need to be used more than the opponent to have more kills than the other, therefore leading to a N+1 race and cap proliferation.
This can be addressed in several ways, and deleting would not solve the problem.
Have you ever heard of the sunk cost fallacy? Apparently not.
This can be addressed in several ways
None of which CCP have been able to do, despite years of trying. At some point you have to just accept that the idea doesnât work and scrap it.
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Please STFU itâs clear by your loss boards that youâre training for a carrier to rat. This has nothing to do with anything BUT your entitled ass thinking you should be able carrier rat for stupid isk at the expense of literally everyone elses experience. Cap ships are cancer and NPC bounties are equally as bad for the game.
My bad, you were blocked. I shouldâve never read your endlessly ignorant drivel in the first place.
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You dont patch a batch of defective cars or kettles, you recall them and crush em.
You dont usually make guess that are so unbased in what you can factualise. I have millions of other solutions but this is the best one.
Cant waste whats already been wasted. Think of the dev time SAVED by not having to ever nerf or buff these boring pieces of crap ever again!
So? So what? If everyone has them then the projection is a zero sum as no one is impressed.
Yes it would, they are the problem, delete them and poof its gone.
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Not really. Then its delete batteships. As Blob x now fields 1000 BSâ. Like we did back in 2009 before huge cap rush in smaller space poorer crews.
Bashing structure, not wanting to be there all night long, you push the BSâ till the system chokes is what not cap heavy crews did.
KIll one imba, another is found. Meany caps gone. Now its not fair say Papi brings 1000 BSâ to our 300. Kill the BSâs now. Deletion doesnât solve issues. It has number 2 become number 1âŚand now the rabble rabble rabble is about that. As the new number 2 now wants to be number 1.
The only balanced pvp game ever created wasâŚPong. 2 bars opposite sides of screen bouncing one ball. Fairest pvp ever. Can you move the bar to bounce the ball. Yes, good for you. No, you lose.
Its intrigue at the time was it was among the first computer games ever made. Its 2021. Pong is not going to sell well.
Battleships do not have the same record of consistent balance and fun problems despite CCPâs best efforts to fix them.
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Not really. BSes can be fun.
Caps, no
Coming from someone who says an insult canât be an ad hominem ⌠yeah whatever dude learn what ARE sunk cost before you talk about them.
Yeah ? My point.
Yes you can. Assets (graphical ones for example) and also player experience are. Players have INVESTED in them and removing them would be removing profit. They have brought tactical changes and meta changes, like them or not - including dreadbombs, DD traps, etc.
Think of the dev time SAVED by closing Eve !
Dude if your âbestâ solution is to close Eve, you can delete the program.
And everyone has tritanium, remove tritanium ?
No they are not.
Dude if you donât understand why CCP added them, what they add to the game, then you are completely off the problem and your opinion on the topic is as useful as merinâs opinion on fallacies.
You cannot start by saying âthey serve no purposeâ to prove they should be removed, because thatâs just wrong.
Your point is captials need recalled and crushed? No, thats my point
You werent talking about any of that, you were specifically talking about dev time being wasted.
Why are you such a hypocrit sometimes. The problem is captials suck, not that EvE as a single entity needs fixed. Why would you strawman like that?
Good job I didnt then. Serious Geten, if you are going to play your game, use your own rules consistantly. Capitals suck, remove. Thats what Im in favour of. IF you disagree, thats your perogative (its your compulsion tbh), but dont say I said something if you cannot quote me saying it, please.
no, thatâs not my point. My point is that cars and kettles need to be recalled because they canât be patched. If company could patch them, they would. CCP can patch the capitals, so your comparison with ârecallâ makes no sense to start with.
Yes, if you accept to delete your assets after creating them then you are wasting dev time.
I am not. Your logic can be applied to Eve as a whole. It results in something stupid. This is a demonstration by the absurd, that your logic is flawed. Just because you donât understand it dos not mean that itâs a strawman.
Calling me an hypocrit because I show your logic is wrong is just personal attacks.
You did. Even just on this post you just say they suck without acknowledging their use. You are in effect painting them as something that has no interest in the game. That is far from the reality.
Yeah but it isnt.
Your just arguing for the sake of it.
Im not changing my mind about caps. And I dont agree that they should be left in their current state.
Anything else you have to critique is pendantry.
Speaking of which;
Heres what you claim I did;
When heres what I did start with;
I started with pointing out no matter what people want to happen, CCP will mess it up. Ask for it only for caps, theyll give it to everyone.
No, I argue to show your logic is wrong.
nobody said so. You are making a strawman.
The problem is you said they should be removed.
Your started your post by claiming caps had issues and thus needed to be removed. This implies that they have no benefit, otherwise you should have stated them to provide an unbiased view.
So yes, you started by claiming caps serve no purpose.
I didnt say anyone said so. There are three possible conditions: patch, leave or remove. Leave as is is not as strawman as it is not a result taken in absurdium, its in fact the most likely thing to happen.
So no, its not a strawman in the slightest.
Thats a problem you have with my post, that you disagree with my oinion, its not the problem the thread is seeking to address.
Benefit and purpose are two different wprds with two different meanings.
Ive already quoted what I started with. Which isnt that.
Later, I said âCaps suck. Ergo, remove capsâ
Which is what I stand by.
Your opinion of my opinion doesnt change that view, no matter how much pendatry regarding language you attempt to use.
If you were genuinely arguing the benefits of caps (whatever they may be) then that might be different.
You literally did by using âdonât agree thatâ. So yes itâs a strawman since nobody actually said so and you pretend someone did.
The problem is that your post is absurd. I disagree with what you present as an argument in favor of your opinion : the logic you rely on, is absurd.
Therefore your opinion, based on that argument, is stupid.
If they have a purpose to fulfill then their existence is a benefit as such.
Which is stupid, and I proved you why.
You can feel its stupid if you like, but you havent proved it.
You can ignore the proof as you like, itâs still stupid.
Precisely, this
and this
are resp. logically and factually wrong, making your argument in favor of caps removal, absurd, and your opinion that caps should be removed, stupid.
Thanks, when some gets posted Ill be sure to remember I have your permission.