CCP, at least allow us to actually close local chat.
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And youâre just here to suck CCPâs dick and whine about how anyone who doesnât join you is âtoo negativeâ.
You can conclude whatever you want about my motives, but they are not relevant. Even if I am just here to complain that has nothing to do with whether or not my arguments regarding the new gambling system are correct. And Iâm not going to get drawn into an off-topic argument about a ridiculously broad topic just because you need to make a personal attack.
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^ And you cant fix stupid.
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It still amazes me that there is anybody in the game who thinks Iâm some kind of CCP fanboy or apologist. Itâs like you donât even play this game and you missed arguably the biggest EVE story of the entire year or something.
Your arguments are your opinion so theyâre neither right nor wrong. Theyâre just your opinion. Iâm not making a personal attack - Iâve seen you complain about two things that have been traditional parts of EVE Online - gambling and Jita spam - and youâve been quick to call for banning anything you donât like whether itâs in game or out of game.
So, yeah, I am trying to figure out what exactly it is you do like, besides complaining. But hey, if thatâs all it is, thatâs fine, too. Youâre in good company over here in that regard, lol.
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I apologize. Your probably not stupid.
So I revise my statement.
You cant fix naĂŻve.
If you arenât youâre sure doing a good job of pretending to be one in this thread, insisting that CCP canât possibly be wrong and all of the critics need to shut up.
Itâs like you donât even play this game and you missed arguably the biggest EVE story of the entire year or something.
Alternatively, I donât give a **** about the farce of the CSM and whether or not you got your free trip to Iceland.
Iâm not making a personal attack - Iâve seen you complain about two things that have been traditional parts of EVE Online - gambling and Jita spam - and youâve been quick to call for banning anything you donât like whether itâs in game or out of game.
Again, calling Jita spam âa traditional part of EVEâ is utter nonsense. Itâs irritating as hell, it adds absolutely nothing of value, and itâs a terrible thing to be showing to new players. Itâs just something CCP hasnât bothered to fix for a very long time, and we should not be celebrating problems just because theyâre old problems.
And no, I havenât called for banning anything I donât like. Iâve called for banning things that have clear harm or that are bad for the game as a whole. There are plenty of things that I donât personally enjoy that I have no desire to ban. Even with Jita spam I donât have any desire to ban the scams themselves, only the repetitive flood of mass spamming that overwhelms any attempt at using the channels for constructive purposes.
Iâve never said that. What Iâve said is that the armchair lawyers who are proclaiming that the hyperlink is gambling, gambling is bad, itâs going to be banned across Europe and elsewhere, are incorrect in their analysis. And thatâs my expert opinion as an actual licensed attorney. Folks can have their opinions as much as they want, but anybody telling you - even me, which is why Iâve couched this always as my expert opinion, not as a fact - 100% that this is what the law is or the like is blowing smoke up your ass, which is exactly what I said on the Meta Show two weeks ago.
There was more to it than that, but clearly if it doesnât involve you, you werenât paying attention. Got it.
Whether itâs irritating or not, itâs something that every single person in EVE has dealt with at some point, thus itâs a shared experience, and itâs gone on long enough that itâs not just a shared experience, itâs also nostalgia and a reference point for the game. Barrens Chat and the incessant stupid Chuck Norris jokes were a part of WOW history in exactly the same way. You get rid of Jita spam and youâre taking a little bit of the character of EVE and flushing it down the toilet.
âClear harmâ to whom? A small sliver of the population who canât handle it appropriately? As for bad for the game as a whole, Iâve seen more excitement and eagerness to participate in the Hyperlink over the last two days than I have any other CCP release in at least a year - even more than when Abyssal Deadspace opened. I think itâs pretty clear people like it.
Again, as before, you want to impose your views on the rest of the game. Donât do that.
Suggestion for HyperNet:
Add an option for âMax tickets per characterâ selection for Private Offers.
Oh really? Because I sure see you doing a lot of whining about my criticism when I donât really give a **** about it being legal or not under some hypothetical legislation that hasnât even been written yet. I care about the demonstrated harmful effects of gambling addiction in F2P cash shop games, and the harm done to a game by the F2P cash shop business model.
There was more to it than that, but clearly if it doesnât involve you, you werenât paying attention. Got it.
You got me, I wasnât paying attention to anything about the CSM because I donât care about it or anything related to it.
Whether itâs irritating or not, itâs something that every single person in EVE has dealt with at some point
Thatâs an absurd argument to make. EVE crashing under high server load is an issue most people have dealt with at some point, and yet CCP continues to make efforts to improve the server infrastructure so those things donât happen. Highsec wars were something most players dealt with at some point and CCP still effectively removed them because they felt it was harming new players and player retention. Etc. The fact that a flaw has been around for so long that most people have dealt with it does not mean that it should stay, especially when the flaw just got significantly worse.
âClear harmâ to whom? A small sliver of the population who canât handle it appropriately?
Small =/= nonexistent. And itâs especially relevant when the feature is of questionable value in the first place.
Again, as before, you want to impose your views on the rest of the game. Donât do that.
Thatâs some impressive hypocrisy for someone who has a career as a lobbyist, a position that is dedicated to imposing the views of certain groups on everyone else, and who has run for political office to attempt to impose your views on others. Or did you plan on never voting for anything that anybody disagreed with?
Iâm less whining about your criticism than pointing out that we donât have a F2P cash shop system, the gameâs never going to be a F2P cash shop game, that the existing monetization scheme has been around for years, and all the complaints youâre making now are a day late and a few isk short.
/sigh
Youâre just going to keep being obtuse, arenât you? Jita spam is players using the system as it was designed to be used. Thereâs nothing suggesting that Jita spam is somehow a violation of the mechanics or the spirit of the game, and thereâs no evidence that new players are driven from the game by Jita spam. Itâs a fact of life that weâve all accepted and you are literally the only person I have ever seen who has suggested it be banned. Even the guy in here bitching about the hyperlink spam wasnât suggesting we can all Jita spam.
The thousands of people using the feature now would beg to differ as the questionable value. The benefits outweigh the harms, here.
Thatâs some impressive lack of understanding of what it is I do for a living (I influence, I donât impose), and the same for what elected officials do. I also think itâs pretty clear that if you actually read what Iâve been writing in here this entire thread, youâd know that Iâm generally a laissez faire kind of guy, who wouldnât be voting to impose his views on people.
More I read Brisc, more I think he developed some kind of Stockholm syndrome after what CCP done to him. 
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On this one, I will agree with @Brisc_Rubal. Jita spam is players not CCP.
Dont want Jita spam, dont go there. Or only go when required to get equipment. One of the very first things I learned in EVE is to avoid Jita at all costs.
Just checked with the local regulations here in the Netherlands. I donât think CCP has a permit to implement this hypernet relay thing in their game, itâs basically a lottery and you need a permit for that.
And the excuses I find here on the forums donât apply. Bold move from CCP by breaking the law.
If you buy all available tickets in a real life lottery you also get the price. So, I am curious about how long it takes before CCP has to shut this down. And yes, it is actualy real money you can spend in game trough conversions that makes the new CCP gambling machine available.
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Well, this was always his senseless and annoying way to have an conversation. Same statements rotated every 4-5 sentences/posts, hammering your brains with his lobby style arguments, meant just to impose on you the ideas he support.
I almost regret now that CCP lifted the ban on him⌠
Iâd be surprised if their lawyers didnât already look at this.
Allowed or not legally, they are contributing to serous mental health issue in some of their playersâwhich isnât a good thing.
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its illegal gambling, thats all
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The first signs of the death of a game in 16 years. If you donât close hypernet in the near future and donât return the lost money to the pilots, the game will die 100 percent. Too many random mechanics in the game, now another one.
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Good thing that most of us donât live in your country so we donât care. Also isk and in game items have no real life value so although it is a âraffleâ in technical terms it is not anything in legal terms because no money or items worth any money change hands. But if you want to limit yourself doing internet lawyering by all means. The rest of us will enjoy the game and the new feature.
Everything you wrote here is wrong. Thatâs impressive.
Iâm always fair - CCP isnât always wrong, and when they arenât and people are crapping on them, Iâm going to speak up in their defense. Same as I do when they do stupid things and Iâm crapping on them.
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