It depends. I have had some end soon with 512 nodes and some take a long time with few nodes. Remember that someone can buy multiple nodes so in a 512 you might get someone buying 100 nodes. A larger amount of nodes with a Lower price/node means someone can get into your hypernet cheaper, less nodes means that a given node has more chance to win but they are more expensive. I really think the popularity of the item has more to do with it ending faster than number of nodes.
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I bought 200 nodes in a 512 node pool @ $1,904,297 each node for large Skill injector and won. It ended sooner than I was thinking it should, so Iâm wondering how this actually plays out.
Other question is, does the seller get the amount of money put in by all the betters minus the 5% fee when it ends?
Yes that is correct.
They are actually ahead of me and have a taskforce working on it.
As soon as you convert real life money into pixels, itâs not real life money anymore. Even if what youâre purchasing is considered âcurrencyâ in the game, itâs not currency in real life. It does not have cash value.
All of the arguments calling this gambling fail on that point primarily. Itâs also not a lottery. Itâs a raffle. There are significant distinctions between the two. Lotteries you enter to win cash prizes. There is no way to win actual RL currency with this feature.
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And your Government will decide to allow it or not depending on how much kick back they receive.
Edit; A last illusion for you now if you think itâs not legal for nowâŚ
if they donât all sell the buyers are refunded and the seller looses his hyper cores and the fees
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you know its also illegal in belgium, and im sure in more european countriesâŚso yeah people should care, especially ccp as half of its player base seems to be european .
i also dont get the excuses people come up with " as soon as u buy ingame item, it is no longer valued as real money, even though you used real money to buy it in the first place" XDâŚyeah rightâŚit is straight gambling, with real life money invested.
i dont know if ccp thinks they are some kind of extraordinary geniuses who had the most brilliant plan to circumvent the obvious gambling part . they are clearly not.
as soon as you turn real life money into pixelsâŚthose pixels convert into real life valueâŚ, you guys know theres rmt happening all the timeâŚso dont blatantly ignore the fact that eve assets are real life value for a lot of people, and the point is not if those people rmt illegal or not, they still do it.
im so very disappointed in ccps decisions lately. but well i guess PA overlords try to milk the cow and tunr it into black desert online in space.
i said that the day ccp anounced PA will buy themâŚand now we slowly but steady see the game mutating into the expected cash grab and gambling â â â â .
mutators where the first typical PA thing tointroduce, now we see the rest of PAs plans come into action, and oh wonder what a coincidence it happens right when ccp starts its korean adventuresâŚwe all know korean mmo market is huge, and they have lot of money to invest into games, esp single men age 18-40 ( google it) due to different lifestyles , and they are used to lootboxes, cashgrab,p2w, p2c and all thatâŚit is so obvious whats going on.
so if you one of those people, still defending this decisionâŚyou better get a reality check.
you clearly ignore the fact, that theres tons of RMT happening in eve, dont you?
and you also ignore the fact, that IF you buy ingame items for real money, and those items end up being very rng heavyâŚthat is straight up gambling.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/30/18203399/ea-fifa-fut-pack-points-banned-belgium-loot-box <âbest example. pretty much same mechanic. whoever still think this is not gambling at allâŚclearly is dumb.
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You are only taxed if there is a winner so when there isnât one, you just lose the hypercores.
Its only gambling if u can take isk or plex and convert it back into legal tender. It is really that simple. its not allowed by ccp and is expressly forbidden in the EULA for well⌠obvious reasons. once u buy plex and take it out of your vault ( as stated by a gmâs reply to a different topic above) it becomes an in - game item ( ie- with no real life value anymore.) its like buying g1c credits. once in game poof your cash is gone and thatâs that though, you do receive an in-game value in return ( whatever that is, isk?) and thatâs what you buy. once it is no longer legal tender gambling laws fall away entirely unless it can be turned back into legal tender ⌠did I just repeat myself⌠sry. 
âat least in north America anyway.
Sorry I meant the brokers fee, pretty sure I read that you loose that too.
Well that is really new and interesting⌠thank you for sharing. never heard of a loot box ban. where did this new law stem from?
do you know?
No we shouldnât care about fake internet âgambling lawyersâ who clearly know nothing about the laws. Especially on a global scale.
The fact that there exist illegal markets in which players can try to exchange money for isk, and likely get banned, does not suddenly make something currency when itâs not currency. In-game items do not have cash value. Iâve explained this a couple dozen times in this thread, so I donât know why people keep pretending that the opposite is true.
There are no legitimate markets for in-game items or isk. They only have value within the game. As soon as plex is converted into isk, it loses whatever real world value it had.
What EA was doing is completely different from what CCP is doing. There are no loot boxes connected to the hyperlink. People - not CCP - use hyperlink to trade items through a raffle system. Thereâs no loot box mechanic there, as the people buying nodes know exactly what theyâre trying to win. CCP isnât selling the raffle items directly, either.
So, to be clear:
No real money is changing hands.
CCP is not providing the items being raffled.
CCP is not creating the raffles.
Nothing here is remotely similar to loot box mechanics that have been banned in a single country.
It is not gambling in the legal sense of the word. Itâs gambling in the vernacular sense, sure. Then again, most things in games have some kind of gambling mechanic.
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This is disputable, because from where they come if not their own designed by them game? 
Also:
CCP, I destroyed the HyperNodes you gave me in the christmas packages. No gambling facilitation by me. I hope you will be more happy in this christmas time, when people should care about others, knowing that I am caring for your fellow eve online spaceship enthusiasts mental health. 
DESTROY ALL HYPERNODES! MAKE CHRISTMAS TIME CHEERFULL! BANISH THE DARKNESS!
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I am SO sorry! YOU are SO right! This MUST be gambling if YOU say so! Iâm SURE CCP did NOT run this through their legal team before releasing it. THEREFORE YOU are RIGHT and the rest of the world is wrong! I humbly THANK YOU for your presence here on earth as you must be a GOD somewhere else. I as well as EVERYONE on earth, should bow to you for your lackluster arguments.
âThe definition of insanity is saying the same thing over and over and expecting different results.â
Edit; Should it have been all cap? 
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Law isnt justice. And it isnt all good either. Some things that greedy people do, are bad either way, if law allows it or not. One day you may realize that walking that way you can come upon dead end and there will be only people like me that can save you, walk you out of it. Cause you are becoming lost like many others.
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#CCPlease - Please Add a Filter that will remove Hypernet Links in Chats (Even if its just the ability to turn off the link not remove from chat.
#CCPlease - Allow to Remove / Lock the Option to use Hypernet on a Account (Like Parental Controls)
I overall approve of ccp adding the option, Even if I would like to limit the Spam / Access.
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I was joking before about being insane, maybe I wasnât that far off after all? 
Iâm not going to bother feeding a troll more than I have to, to get entertainment outta you. Others have disproved your logic (or lack thereof) far better than I can, infinite.
Itâs like watching a frog in a potâŚ