Introducing the HyperNet Relay

What the hell CCP? I guess our only hope is EU comes down on your asses for exploiting your player base with this gambling BS

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That too.

I am a very confused person anyway because I watch many politicians drone on about banning tobacco but then they drone on about legalizing cannabis,

The only clear thing about this is that if CCP introduce this then their rating needs to go up.

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Seems to me from that picture that one can buy a raffle ticket for 6.250.000 ISK. A bit expensive for 1/16th chance at a CovOps cloak, but there seem to be no HyperCores involved for buying.

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Turns out the biggest problem with Eve is CCP and ideas like this.

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CCP_Signal: will not comment on the fact that the game is marketed at 12+ in the uk

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I’m here because of the obvious implications for the black market. :roll_eyes:

(Noizy, btw)

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It’s not meaningless at all - have you ever heard of a lottery IRL tha didn’t include a cash prize or some other prize that is negotiable IRL? You don’t have that here. There is no way to extract real life value for the in-game object. Further, from what it appears here, the person buying the hyperlinks with real life cash is the seller, not the guy gambling on it. Pretty much every lottery is defined as paying cash for a chance to win a prize.

It’s almost like CCP structured this in a way to be sure they wouldn’t run afoul of these laws…

Sure, I know that technically you can extract that value BUT we are talking strictly within the EULA. I know as much as you that a lot of grey and black market activity, in particular ISK buying and selling, can be facilitated under this new system which will help launder money and ISK.

However in a pure fantasy world where no criminals exist, the real money stays within the company.

No - the Hypernodes are sold by the item seller. Therefore they are “reselling items broken down from an item ONLY available for RL money”. This means that without RL money input it will not work in the first place. It may well be that you buy your “Hypernode”/ticket with isk but that is merely a resale of part of an item bought for RL money.

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What a badly written text… It doesn’t bode well if this is this best that you can do to explain it.
Perhaps sending people to Vegas for inspiration and writing out the basics of this in a drunken state, was not the best idea. :thinking: :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

But if I understand it correctly : the seller can transform his IRL money into lottery tickets which he can sell for ISK while putting up an item as price. The buyers can buy these tickets against ISK to have a shot at the item : they either win it or loose their ISK.

A nice schema would make the text already much clearer.

I can understand that companies try to maximize their income, although in CCP’s case I just wonder on which silly non-Eve related idea they will throw their money away this time. But launching a gambling feature in a time where regulators are getting more and more restrictive (that’s what happens when you create bureaucracies without much added value…they try to justify themselves by becoming more restrictive every year) seems rather silly. It’s not because you don’t call it a lottery ticket, and you are not paying with IRL money that they will look away. One can expect already that this feature will not be available in all countries or will be forbidden in certain after release. You’ll loose more money in lawyer costs then this ever will produce.

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Where do I buy my raffle ticket to win a monocle?

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i liked it.

Weird, the same thing is with most games having loot boxes and yet they were still deemed illegal in places like Australia, Belgium, Netherlands and more. I wonder why? Maybe because the mechanics behind it, and the human behavior it leans on, are still those of gambling. And considering you need real money to set it up, it gives it a real money worth!? I know these are hard concepts to grasp but I am sure you might be able to if you just focus hard and long enough. Its okay, you got another hour on the plane to try.

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Which is exactly what happens once gambling addicts start buying ISK with cash (via the PLEX market) to pay for more lottery tickets.

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Just got confused by the use of “HyperNodes” on that screen.

Basically, I think the item order was made by 16 HyperNodes and the issuer bought 2 for himself. So 14 remaining and each node costs 6,250,000.00 ISK

Anyway, since the raffle tickets only can be purchased by in-game currency and the IRL money is only limited to setting up an order, it is indeed not similar to a lootbox.

Having gambling mechanics in a game with a Pegi rating of 12 and how it “contributes” to exposing minors to gambling is a whole other story.

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haaaa. lol

I’m creating content for people, Mr. Forum Alt.

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With all the anti-gambling laws either passed or on the docket this has to be one the dumbest things they have ever done. I mean this is up there with monoclegate all over again. Don’t worry fam I’m sure laws somewhere soonish will obliterate this idea. #wasteddevtime

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Yep, that part I don’t like either, but overall it seems like a nice addition to allow people to liquidate hard-to-sell items.

Except, again, the existence of the PLEX market makes it possible to use IRL money to enter the lottery. And that’s exactly what CCP is hoping gambling addicts will start doing.

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