Get on Sisi and have a look at it. It’s blatantly designed as a dopamine machine. Probably the most explicit form I’ve ever seen in an MMO. Also I just won a Keepstar \o/
Good thing to scam in the first days. But after - garbage.
I doubt it.
How will RMT through the HyperNet Relay be any less tracable than RMT through the EVE market?
On the market people can put up ridiculous prices for an item, RMT gold seller buys it and RMTer gets ISK. Easily tracable by CCP.
Using contracts people can put up ridiculous prices. Ctrl-c, ctrl-v story above, CCP traces RMTer and bans him.
On the HyperNet Relay people can put up ridiculous raffle ticket prices for an item, RMT gold seller buys them all and RMTer gets ISK. Since all names involved are known, this is just as easily tracable by CCP as all the existing options.
So how is this going to allow people to RMT any more than they already do?
Right, but what he’s saying is:
I have X ship. X ship is worth 100bn ISK.
I buy a rafflecore for 10bn in PLEX.
I put up 10,000 tickets for 100m ISK each.
This creates a total pool of 1,000,000,000,000 - 1T ISK.
6000 tickets have sold, giving me 600,000,000,000 - 600bn ISK.
I use that 400bn of that to buy up the remaining tickets.
EVEN IF I DO NOT WIN, I have made money. How much?
Well, I got 600, then spent 400, so I have made 200bn - a profit of 90bn after the cost of the ship and the cost of the rafflecube. EXCEPT…
I spent the 400 to me. So I got that 400, too. I made all 600. 590bn profit. And if I win, I just do it again. If I lose? I buy a new one and do it again.
and then they will ban the possibility of free trading in stations.
and any item transfer in space will be marked as RMT and will be banned.
well, what do you want from free2play?..
UPD. oh yeah, and, of course, you will not be able to use any trade mechanics if you are not omega.
there are too many isks on game…
This sounds like betting strategies to me. And really, if you want to get into betting strategies go ahead, if you’re lucky you may make money. If you’re unlucky you may lose some.
In the end, if you buy some or all of your own raffle tickets the only winner is CCP who sold you the HyperCores.
It’s not a betting strategy. The guy doing the raffle makes money no matter what, unless he’s so amazingly dumb that he’s not putting the raffle up for enough to recover his costs. All this does is give an increasing chance that, after recovering his costs, he’ll get the item back to dangle out in front of people again.
Either way, he will recover his costs.
EDIT: Yeah. Your math was off. You have a 100% chance of getting 60% of the total target pool.
What a roller coaster this has been…
Relevant part for this discussion.
I spoke to one player named Kradick Kahn who was gambling with the Guardian’s Gala boxes and admitted that he may have a gambling problem. “Its only a problem if you cant afford it,” he joked with me in the Events chat channel last night before admitting that that he thinks the event is “designed to get more players to buy ISK.” The timing of this week’s 10% PLEX price discount and marketing about the record-high value of PLEX suddenly seems a little suspect.
Kradick Kahn claims that he gambled extensively on the EVE gambling website IWantISK around three years ago before third party gambling sites were banned. “I think I spent about 10k or so,” he said, confirming that he meant US dollars and explaining that at one point his credit card was even blocked. He says that he’s rolled a lot of mutaplasmids since they were introduced too, and confirmed that he burned through PLEX to fund that habit. While Kradick Kahn may have had enough money to burn $10,000 on a gambling service without worrying, not all gamblers are in such a comfortable position. Kradick himself even admits it was getting out of hand, and he now sticks to a smaller budget.
Good time to use this quote:
your a politician, STFU already
It is a betting strategy, and a dumb one at that because your expected value is negative because of the cost of HyperCores.
In your example you buy 40% of your own tokens and get a 0.4 chance at winning your own item + 60% of the raffle’s worth, and a 0.6 chance at winning only 60% of your raffle’s worth.
In other words, your expected value is 0.4*(1+0.6) + 0.6*0.6 = 0.64 + 0.36 = 1. In other words, you’re expected to win your item’s worth, just like you would if you didn’t buy any of your own raffle tickets at all.
EXCEPT you now have only a 60% chance of selling your item instead of a 100% chance of selling, while your entry cost of a certain amount of HyperCores to start the raffle stays the same. In other words, you’re losing money.
Maybe not. Just testing it now and it looks like the number of Hypercores required to list an item does go up as you increase the price (just checking the increments now). I got a 30k+ requirement for listing a Keep for 200b. Also, according to local the thing is set to 3 days, and if it fails you don’t pay the sales tax, but the Hypercores are lost. Which would make Hypercores a pressure on the market as a sink as I’d expect a significant number of these raffles to fail.
Posted in local : https://puu.sh/EJjzH/1e4425542c.png
You put up a private raffle in this case, and on the contracts its not like CCP act swiftly on the poor unfortunate individuals and corps who keep getting jita scammed multiple times per day.
Horrible, terrible, bad, awful idea. Just to make more money. gg CCP.
I have seen nothing suggesting the possibility of private raffles.
Hypernet the purchase of an item anywhere, but only make it available to pick up where the Raffle was created??? WTF is this? How about dropping into where you want it like redeemable items! Poor, poor, poorly developed concept, CCP. This besides the undeniable fact it stinks of gambling. Take off your ■■■■■■■ $$$ goggles and fix your ■■■■■■■ game first!!!
I think they are using 2 monocles duct taped together : )
You also thought that cripling wardecs will retain more players. Maybe you’re just not good at understanding things?