It’s a raffle.
You bought a ticket and didn’t win.
The isk goes to the person who’s running the raffle.
(It’s just isk. You don’t spend anything else on buying tickets.)
as for the rest, raffles come in 8, 16, 48 and 512 ticket versions (iirc). So a single ticket will be a fraction of the item cost. Depending on what the person who created it wants to put in, and is willing to pay for.
You know, this really does seem like a trolly answer.
Because you don’t explain the difference.
Want to give it another go, or be relegated to the list of people who should be ignored?
Err, what is the difference?
Regardless of how you call it, something must be generating the random outcome.
I don’t think that scam works. That’s because if you lose, you lost the item and the unsold ticket revenue. For example, if you raffled a 1bil item in a raffle that can net you 1 bil in ticket sales (fees and costs accounted for), bought half the tickets, and then won, you would indeed make 500 mil profit. But if you lost, you would have basically sold the item for half price -thereby losing 500mil. So, you may get lucky a few times, but along a long enough timeline, you’d end up breaking even.
But that begs the question, what happens if you raffle the item off for much more than it’s worth? Well, assuming I set up my spreadsheet correctly, you’re always better off just selling all the tickets. Like, you can jack up the price enough to do the scam and make money, but at that point, you’re better off just selling all the expensive tickets.
But, I did find a few mistakes while making my spreadsheet, so it’s possible that I made a one that I didn’t catch. Did anyone else reach a similar conclusion?
Also, the hypercores required are based off of the total ticket value and not off of what the client estimates it value to be. It looks like the formula is 1 Hypercore / 6,653,100 isk total ticket value (labeled “Total Price” in client).
Erm… how is that a troll-answer when (except for getting the number 32 instead of 48 as one of the options for ticket allocations) it is exactly what you yourself said.
Oh - I didn’t say you buy the tickets for isk but then that has been said hundreds of times already in this thread so I figured it was obvious by now.
But sure, ignore me mate. For what? Beating you to giving the answer by 30secs or something just as pathetic? Whatever man - just do one.
You two cracked me up! On topic, I think the not-gambling is good for CCP to get money, but bad for people who have not-gambling addictions.
More importantly- what about future anti-gambling laws? There’s been pressure in some government policy makers to stifle this sort of quasi-gambling in video games. I suppose CCP has done its research on who matters and who they are OK with getting in trouble with?
Most importantly- when will the Dramiel get its speed bonus back?
You should look at which of your posts Steve replied to.
Yes I did reach the same conclusion as you did. It’s not worth it to buy your own tickets. Unless you want to start the raffle earlier / within the time limit and not enough participants bought a ticket.
That’s not what I was responding to. As can be seen, by clicking on that little reply symbol with my face and name next to it.
It’s on SISI. Check it out. People know what they are freaking out about.
Perhaps it would help if you read the post he replied to rather than assuming it was the one you just made.
some people know.
The ones who have gone and looked. It’s obvious from a fair number of the posts that the person writing them hasn’t. Or even fully read the devblog.
(item teleportation being complained about, for example)
Just checked. Still not a troll answer but an answer of basic maths. Feel free to both look it up and block me. One will educate you and the other will not matter in the slightest other than being the less beneficial option to you.
You may well be CSM but let’s be honest - you blocking me will not make the slightest difference to anything. Much like the CSM itself.
No, they will no longer have a business if they continue to trash their only successful product like this.
Interjections are rude, I know. However, can you (or anyone at CCP) for that matter elaborate on what measures are in place to protect (some) people from themselves.
I understand the need for business to function and grow, but I’d like to think that CSM’s have at least addressed the often overlooked issue of social responsibility in this respect.
Will there be a sane cap on spending?
No. There will only be an “opt out” option if you think it may have issues for you personally. But if it does have issues for you personally then those same issues will be the precise reason you do not opt out of it…
it is a question, based on an incoherent blog
is all of this just an exercise in outrage anyway? hilmar had to be told on-stage what booshing was
you do get the point where you are not bitter-vet but just flabbergasted by the incompetence, or disconnect with actual humans
You just license the products and let the seller take the risk.
Letting you guys get liquid is a good thing, in the long run. Having all that wealth is pointless if you can’t do anything with it.
I don’t know of any cap. But it’d be hard to specify what’s a sane cap. I know some people who put several hundred dollars into plex each month. Because they can afford it. If you can think of a way to define sane, I’d appreciate hearing it.
They will, however, allow people to request a permanent ban from using the feature. It’s not perfect, but it’s something.
(Yes, they’ve not posted it anywhere yet. I’d expect an article in the help centre mentioning it. It’s been said by CCP Rise on TiS. Hence why I’m sharing. CCP’s, umm, sometimes lacking in comms.)
