good stuff, i wasnt understanding apparently. ty.
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Yeah, it took us the best part of 2 days to get to figuring out wtf was actually going on.
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And as Iāve said more than once since this got announced: Burger must be Riseās favorite freakinā person right now, for having made absolutely clear at London that this is not a Team Talos project.
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I know what kind of fun is that, play with fire, get burned. Like there would not be something better to spent money and time onā¦
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Wait a minute, i think we are raging for all the wrong reasons hereā¦
It seems to me that a lottery will automatically run after a duration, even if not all hypernodes/tickets are sold?
We wont get back any of the hypercodes used for any of the hypernodes/tickets that didnt sell?
And, in addition to this CCP want to take a 5% āhypernet relayā isk tax on the whole amount,
even if you only made a fraction of that isk in the end?
I must protest, the cost of setting up ālooks legit, honestly its not a scamā raffles will just be to darn high.
(ā¦and on a more serious note, seting up a raffle seems to be even more like gambling than actually bying a ticket).
11 days to fix it. Anyone want to bet ISK/Plex/HyperNet Relays on if they can pull it off in time? 
Should be easy, in fact. Should be.
Thereās a simple way to fix the issues created by the rounding problem: eliminate it. Eliminate the need to deal with rounding of 3+ decimal places entirely. Doing thatā¦ also easy:
Step 1: Only allow entry of the final total price of the raffle, not the individual ticket prices.
Step 2: all final total prices are entered in thousands of ISK.
Step 3: all ticket amounts are expressed as powers of 10, ie: 1, 10, 100, 1000, 10000, 100000.
Poof, no individual ticket value goes beyond 2 decimal places. The smallest total valueā1,000 ISKāwith the max number of ticketsā100,000āproduces a value of 0.01 ISK. Done this way, ārafflesā for 1 ticket become 3-day sell orders, functionally the same as current public contracts with only a ābuyā option.
The EU keyboard problemā¦ 
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This is one good idea you should have kept to yourself and sent to CCP through back channels. With CCPās abysmal record of using good ideas from the player base, its possible they wont do this because they would be embarrassed by it.
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There are plenty of smart people with back channels who are aware of this solution. Now, much like the problem itself, CCP canāt claim nobody told them.
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Let. People. Decide. For. Themselves.
There are a lot of things I find fun and will spend money on that others donāt. The same is true in reverse.
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addiction is NOT a decission
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And enjoying a gamble once in a while is not an addiction. 
But even if you gambled every day it still isnāt a problem as long as you arenāt gambling your money needed for bills.
Iād love to know how much a HyperCore will cost in the New Eden Store. Without that number itās impossible to calculate costs.
Reading. It tells you all sorts of amazing stuff!
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And yet, people do that. More, people who didnāt have a gambling problem develop them, and donāt realize/canāt admit that they have one until theyāve lost the house.
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I look at it like this:
People spend a lot of money on stuff they donāt need, crap, etc. I know someone whom spends $250 a month on cable TV alone. People buy expensive cars but donāt need them they want them. $1000 phones when a $150 one will do the job.
So, since relative to my income I donāt have an expensive car, donāt have cable TV, donāt have an expensive phone, etc. I could literally gamble every single day and not waste as much money as those people on entertainment/crap I donāt need.
It is simply a form of entertainment. Some people waste money on cable TV, expensive cars or any number of things. Or you can choose to gamble or whatever floats your boat. So sad that you feel like just because you donāt like something that no-one is allowed to like it. Also, like I said before, the addicted are outliers and can be dealt with without taking freedom from the rest of society.
Only if there are ways to identify them and help them to recognize their problem and get help. Which doesnāt exist here. Nor are there ways to ensure that minors arenāt gambling. There are already plenty of ways to gamble. Saying āmaybe a venue actively marketed to 12-year olds isnāt an appropriate oneā isnāt depriving you of any freedom.
But a raffle for fake money on fake items is not doing anything to a 12 year old LOLā¦ And if you are a parent and care that much then teach your kid about money management. Oh wait people like you are too lazy and so they want the gov to raise their kids for them.
Also, if you are afraid of a 12 year old gambling fake items for fake money in a game then why let them play EVE at all?
A game where scamming, stealing, killing, etc is all legal. Pleasure hubs, exotic dancers, drug filled dollsā¦ Comeon give me a break your morality is a joke.
Raffles are actually one of the more subtle ways that people develop a gambling addiction, yes. Consider it a āgatewayā drug. As for parentingā¦ of course parents should be responsible, but they donāt bear sole responsibility. Parents have their kids for a brief window every day, between the parents working and the kids going to school. There are a lot more influences on those kids than just their parents.
Personally, no, I donāt think a responsible parent does let their kid play EVE. That doesnāt absolve the game developer of responsibility for a game they actively claim is suitable for children. Responsibility cuts both ways, you know? If I say a thing is ok for kids, and itās not ok for kids, thatās not the kidsā parents fault, itās mine.
Edit: and letās be clear here: while I donāt think a responsible parent lets their kids play EVE, that doesnāt mean I think all parents are responsible, and it doesnāt mean the irresponsible parties are always the ones to pay the price. Just because I donāt drive drunk doesnāt mean I wasnāt hit by a guy who did, and was doing 70 on a residential street. Fortunately, I was in a massive freakinā 1983 Delta 88 at the time, and āallā he did was crush 10 feet of the frame of the car. I wasnāt the one being irresponsible, but I still lost my car.
Someone who was in the back seat would have lost a lot more.
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