How about I just don’t. FYI, I own a free-to-play game with millions of customers, a virtual in-game currency, and a product we sell that is linked to our free model. Let’s just say that I understand both sides of the coin.
Your weird aggression is not helpful. Ultimately, I would imagine we both want is best for the game, but again, asking us to believe that CCP are passively subservient to the in-game economy and it’s impact on their business is something that I disagree with.
That doesn’t seem to be something you can debate philosophically without trying to pre-emptively claim that only your position has validity.
Interesting how you constantly tell others to back up their assertions yet at the same time you fail to back up your own assertions. Course to cover for that, you then post insults and sarcastic innuendos in an attempt to instigate a forum flame war.
I wouldn’t pay for any of that stuff, but I would pay for better frivolous stuff.
If they put all of the clothing available in the game into the character editor so I could see how it actually looks, made some new (and better) stuff, and made it customizable to some extent, that is what I would pay them for. I won’t buy stuff that changes how I play the game it self though. Not even something I really want (like to be able to revert my Stiletto to how it was last week) it’s just not going to happen. Better cosmetic stuff, skins for ships if they were more to my taste, or I could edit them in some way, no problem, but that’s it.
The funny thing is that if they did this, as inane as it is, I think they would make a killing.
Think about this:
What if the basic clothing were free and someone like me didn’t like any of it, but there was other stuff I did like and each of those things was a buck or two with a few exceptions for things like fund raisers or something, a full set of clothing, hair, cosmetics, jewelry, and so on, by the time I was done each of my characters would cost fifty bucks. Maybe more. And I haven’t even gotten to ships…
The best part (for CCP) is they would then add more. And I would think “ooooooo! I want that!”.
Most people in Eve fall into two main categories that I can think of, people who don’t care what their character looks like (many of them are alts) and those who do and spend the time, isk and effort to make it happen, why I’m in the second category I don’t know, but I am and if I had some way, other than billions of isk of getting what I want I would jump on it. The main problem with the existing stuff is that you can’t try it to see how it looks, hats make you go bald (for some reason this pisses me off, and I don’t even like hats usually), and it’s mostly really generic sort of stuff in a lot of cases. Eve has the cleanest, most royal looking pirates, miners and haulers imaginable. It gets silly after a while, people tend to look like what they do, or where they come from. Not like they are about to go have cocktails in their Venture while smashing boulders in space and waiting for the queen and king to show up with their entourage to come try to gank them.
I would pay to fix that problem. Not to advance, not to get an edge in PvP, but in the least important stuff in the game.
Tbf, it didn’t die. They killed it. There is a significant difference.
That would be a mistake.
I could not have said it better.
This is a valid, and critical point.
Um… That is literally their only job.
Exactly, do not reward bad behavior with good money.
I’m so glad you labeled that as a fact, because if not I would’ve considered it a debatable point based on an opinion formed by limited perception of the situation.
It would be a difficult thing to prove factually. We weren’t in the meetings, and we dont have access to the data. One can look at what they’ve been doing and make inferences pretty easily though. Faucet after faucet being nerfed. The means with which players access those faucets being nerfed. While also increasing the basic cost of literally everything. It doesn’t prove anything outright, but an intelligent person can connect the dots. We may be wrong, I concede that point, but I doubt it very seriously.
I think the Mining Boosters are really the proof. They clearly only had intention to nerf income gained through effort not through paying to speed up the process they are doing their best to make slow and increasingly monotonous.
I disagreed with you before regarding ships; maybe I was hasty. I did however suggest we should all downgrade to the cheapest fastest builds so we’d remember the fun isnt in big builds but using the ships to have fun.
Now, is there a direct connection betwixt Mining Boosters and Pay For Progress? Maybe not, but then again, note how they are being given out in exactly the same way as the Expert Skill Pay Packages were.
And after several years of getting us used to things being given out, some dont even question it.
Paranoid? You bet I am.
Ive kinda gone from “CCP probably has a good reason” to “CCP are liars and snake oil salesmen” and I dont see anything thats likely to change my mind on the horizon.