I don’t disagree on that, but what if the 2 cents he adds on the topic makes someone else remember an interesting point on the topic ?
There is no resting place for thread. This notion only refers to animated elements. It’s like saying, a town has been alive for so long, it’s time to find its resting place : to me, this is nonsensical.
Also yes, a topic can find a new interest several years later. I can’t see a rational reason to not use the same thread.
Fair points.
IMO High Sec Mining should have scannable sites that can be explored which contain some more of these sites. Provide an incentive for mobile / nomadic exploration fleets of miners in high sec.
There are quite a number of relic sites that contain decorational ore, and as CCP doesn’t understand the code generating these, they never nerfed those sizes or removed the asteroids that shouldn’t be in that security region. Escallations, too, contain decorational ore, quite a bit of it actually and there’s quite a number of rocks that shouldn’t be in high after the resource redistribution patch, too.
Likewise, relics with veldspar exist in lowsec.
If it’s just “scanning” and not “cosmic signature scanning”, you can combat probe a marauder, warp a few barges into his DED and mine the ore that’s there for decorational reasons, too.
Most people don’t know or understand this. In null you know your friends and your enemies. Low sec you need to assume everyones hostile.
Mine free ore, compress it or reprocess t in player stations with low taxes then get free isk 
Mining is not dead.
HTFU
Very cool. I’ve heard about this for missions but not so much for relic sites, etc. I would however have no issue with them making mining sites that are scannable and require work (like gas) or even ‘suspect sites’ where its available in highsec but flags them.
Thanks for the info!
In null, everyone that isn’t an alt of yours is your enemy, either because he’s scamming you or because he’s shooting you. At times, you need to pretend your alts were your enemies, too, eg. when the standing fleet decides to wreck the alt you were using to extract your corps’ ESS with, or the one you were warping on your in-corps toon that cloaky scouted before dropping out of standing fleet and joining your alt’s.
Null is the safest place to mine nevertheless. No NPCs in the higher grade anomalie, no hull integrity tests or mining permit controls, no blopsers, no diamond NPCs, no random travellers picking up miners on dscan and going for them, and even if the miners manage to get wrecked nevertheless, e.g. when the mercoxite cloud burned through the tank that wasn’t tuned in order to maximize profits, they’re SRP-ed.
In WH you know that everyone you don’t explicitly know is hostile, but unlike null you won’t be ganked by your corpmates’ out-of-corps alts, mainly because your corpmates can create enough content by having their alts be in-corps and rolling the static hard enough.
In Low, like in WH land, content is easy to be found, therefore there’s no need to gank your corpmates, either.
In high, even miners are NPSI-ing, but unlike null they’re not PAPI checked to stay in their home system for their activities, so they travel around which preempts there chronic lack of content that null is defined by.
CCP is doing it’s best though. For example, they’re increasing the system securities of the 0.5 secs right now, which will cause their moons to become un-minable.
People who want to shoot miners will shoot them. There’s no need for the miner to be suspect, all that’s needed is void s on enough catties and safety set to red.
The suspect crap is only for antigankers, and AG can’t bother going for miners because they can pad their zkill much better leeching on CONCORD kills in Uedama or Ohide then scrubbing the belts for content on their own.
only in Hek
The same update that bumped Hek to 0.7 also increased Villore, which had been 0.5 until 2 weeks ago, to 0.8, too 
May have to mine something else until the effects of Havoc die down. Or jump in their orher alts who don’t mine for a while.
It’s at 0.9 now 
But you can’t do this AFK! what is the point then?
I made about 100m isk last night in about 60-70 minutes of fairly active mining with an orca/hulk/proc/proc. I used 4 accounts, all omega, all actively mining Veldspar. Laying out 2.8b (I think) to fit all of this.
This morning I ran L4 missions with 1 account and made more. In the same timeframe. Laying out about 900m ish.
The point I’m making is yes it’s dead. It’s long dead. It’ll also just reach a low equilibrium point unless it’s changed. If miners stop mining high sec, Trit goes up a bit but the second that happens, engines start up again and they’re back out there and the price drops. I can’t see it changing so I’ve been considering liquidation of my mining fleet and changing activities. I do Indy on the side (and no I don’t consider ores I mine ‘free’).
If yields increase the price will absolutely plummet. They killed high sec mining when they removed other ores from it. Not to mention there’s probably less destruction in the game now compared to a few years back but I’d love to see some data on that if anyone has any 
Making high sec the primary or only get tritanium zone could revive it yet would most likely lead to other troubles. In so far that is out of question. Which means it needs a realy clever idea here.
The monthly economic report shows that HS mining is very much alive. It is actually thriving thanks to moons.
A porpoise and 3 covetors would provide significantly more yield and come at a significantly lower price then an orca and a hulk + 2x proc.
Pro-PVPers will always find a way to create a lot of “content”.
This one, for example, found he could farm his alt for expensive killmails, and of cause show off his faction corvette via zkill, which is the only truth about eve anyways, by loading his alt’s shuttle with skillbooks and challenging the shuttle to a duel with his other toons:
In the old days, highsec pvp-ers would have needed to wreck how many marauders to get 12B isk in killmails? How many 15-minute-criminal timers would they have to sit out? How many blaster catalysts would they “use up” in the progress? How much efford would they have to spend to find their targets?
The new age pro-pvp-ers can do in a few minutes what CODE and friends were taking hours to accomplish, and he can do it without “using up” scores of catties every time, too.
The new pro-pvp-ers are better at content production then the old ones, and for that reason eve can keep “content” up even if there’s less players around participating 
Consideriong that mining is an activity on the low end of the social spectrum, gets not that high wages, get’s no award, goign to be a sitting duck in a fire fight, is dangerous and deadly and won’t earn applause … ccp manage to mirror the real world quite closely into eve space mining.
Maybe just maybe they could’ve placed a “for hopeless suicidal romantics, happy bearers of crosshairs and anyone masochistic enough to play victime, yes also you can help the economy” sign out there.
that shuttle guy is laundering isk
Mining is a means to an end. (Aka building ships)
People tend to froget that a large indy system exists.
Option 1: IF YOU MINE AND SELL ORE You are going to be pretty bored, lonely, and depressed.
Option 2: If you mine the ore, talk about the best reprocessing skills, where to haul the ore to build your fleet, what PI you should do, where is a reaction freeport, etc. THEN mining can actually be a great activity.
What option do you want as a person who likes indy? I like the second option myself. Seems more engaging and richer to me vs just mine ore—compress ore-------sell ore.
I subscribe to the first in your list.
But how about those who simply want to play a space game that’s deep enough to be engaging and punishing enough to keep interested without bothering to become rich in a game? Is money all that matters to EvE players? Billions, Trillions, Shmucklions…
All I need is my trusty Venture to go out there and find me a shiny vein 
And I already have Venture, Miner, Microwarpdrive, Shield Hardener, Laser Upgrade and Bulkhead BPO’s to rebuild my baby in case one of you space lunatics try to dispossess me of it 
So do I.