Is it normal Tranquil Abyss for frigs to find Skybreakers?

Don’t know, I don’t understand this new format where it fold the chat… So sometime I don’t read what people say, or post two times the same thing bc I have no clue where the comment has gone…

I killed a Pacifier AND a Skybreker with a VIGIL.
I also flown into the Abyss and Auto-destroyed myself after.
The UI didn’t register the direction change to go get the cache container and instead flown straight ahead outside the border, as I was kiting the skybreaker at 12km, webbing him down,
firing him with barrage and javelins, and still had 2 hobs alive…

The VIGIL kept the random vector when the SkYBREAKER died, it didn’t stop.
The UI didn’t register my change of direction ( I double clicked aprroach cache container)
and two seconds lateer I was dead.

Only thing it was a T1 DARK, not a T-0, and I was NEUTED HARDLY in room 2.
Infact I was Half Armor When I finally killed him.
The Damn Abyssal depth and the lagging UI finished the job.

I lost about 20Mil in Loot from this and a T-0 Mission.
The Ship cost about 22mil plus the 3x Abyssal modules,
which are costly because of the Mutaplasmids going up…
but they were all T1 or T2 versions, anyway they were good rolls, so safe to assume
a minimum of 200 Mil went into creating those modules..

Being in T-1 is fine to find SKYBREAKER.
Alpha players instead do a lot of T-0, having an unkillable ship there is not really fun.

Alpha players must have SOME Free FUN or EVE will make a grim end…

I was able to kill the skybreaker with an OMEGA char, with full LV 5 skills…
no chances an Alpha player could even thing of beating a T-1 Abyss…

I LOST MY THIRD VIGIL FLEET ISSUE… to a SKYBREAKER…
But it was gamma, and he had 18KM range. More than my 13 KM Rage Rockets.
I could barely kill him with almost 240 DPS from rockets alone, but my tank was going down faster, and could not escape its range.zz

SKYBREAKER is OP in T-0 ABYSS.
Maybe in DArk there is possibility with exactly good match fits,
I’m sure my 500 DPS T2 Hawk OMEGA can kill him in seconds.
The problem is when trying to use ALPHA FRIENDLY SHIPS with capped tank and dps…
I can barely kill it with OMEGA SKILLS, but must be DARK.+
Otherwise in gamma My good fit for all 99% of ships, was not making a scratch to the Skybreaker. Nerfing his active tanking a but could be useful ,making things more equilibrate,
He can tank 230 EXPLOSION RAGE ROCKETS DPS all day LONG, and still kill me.

Now I changed the fit again, just because of him.
It’s painstakilly OP for a T-0

i posted a video that you just quoted. That is me killing it in a t0 with a much lower skill alpha account than you, in a badly fit rifter. I even offline one of the gyro’s to prove how easy it is.

Thank you for uploading the video. For T0/T1 Darks, he could just use a Hookbill and all problems disappear. Same with the Hawk in T2. This man faces self-made problems everywhere, all day long…

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honestly it’s easy in a kestrel. just need 90+ thermal dps in a dark to break it’s tank. Rockets and ballistcs in the lows with level 3 skills should be fine

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This man said the same things I’m saying 5 years ago.

For ALPHA PLAYERS, with APLHA suggest ships and fits, the SKYBREAKER isntead of bringing equilibrium, has meant him abandoning the game.

What I said? This would impact player retention.
You can argue that a T2 ship with Omega skills that can tank 500 DPS and do the same, could kill a SKYBREAKER in no time (the retribution is one of those ships).

But this doesn’t automatically render this guy point, and mine, meaningless.

This lack of touch with reality DO affect the game perception as being a pay-per-win game.
Maybe it’s time to backtrack a little bit, but this shoulnd’t be a one man decision,
or that of a CEO, only.

Light hurts!

Someone just went out of their way to record a demo of a shitfit alpha rifter killing it, why are you acting like that didn’t happen?

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the yellow lines and signs tell him to!

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Bc it’s like a CASINO, where the house always win.

I proposed to move the kiki+2 dama combo to t-2 or even t-3 and up,
and now they are back into t-1. They are OP.
They have better AI too that in the past. They move like a pack hunters squad now.
They drive you towards the RED BANDS of death, but they never crosses them,

They have avoid-line Autopilot that you don’t. They can SEE and avoid the Abyssal arena red bands limits, and you can’t. It’n not collidable object. The room has no central Axis either visible to you.
Your Autopiloting is restricted to one target only, whilst it should be multi targets piloting.

I am fighting for EVE, how it’s scaling it’s playability with time.

You just need one room of skybreaker+pacifier, Kiki-2 dama, and 1 Karibis with full shield and 90km NEUT, and your chances to get out alive with all the skills you can thing of,
will go down to 50%. No matter what it for 99 times I made it with a Kestrel with just T1 and alpha skills. It’s all luck. One of those rooms and you’ve lost everything.

The AI Autopiloting has to be re-inforced in more than just one simple multiple-averaging arbit+keep at range+avoid. It also need to be able to check drone formations, make unvisible objects real, collideable structures, that can be targeted and added to the list of things the AI piloting computer has to average, to maintain your ship alive…

Shift orbit out of phase of 1 to 180*…
TRY MAINTAIN a chaotic approach with a MIN ang velocity of “X”
and so on.
What happened to the Drones overview? It has been nerfed.
YOUR, AI, piloting overview has been nerfed,
can you deny it?

You can’t help yourself discarding key features as temporal interferences to the main program installed in you. You could anchor to the central gate, that’s not the center of the room anyway. And they can keep the center locked at the some distance equal to the red death line & target YOU. You can’t have both.

Don’t get me wrong.
I like competition.
But it must be fair competition.
And it’s been a long time that EVE have chosen to go the opposite direction.

You missed the message.

It’s not the skybreaker.

It’s the AI piloting overview revolution the message.
bc it seems that EVE will no push back from it’s newer AI tactics.
We ought to fight back.
With collective intelligence.
Not Singular heroism.

Loss is a part of EVE, no ship fit is perfect for every room. Sometimes you will get a combination that will destroy your fit, that is not a bad thing, that’s just balance.

You’re coping with the wind.
What balance are you wiggling about???
Life and eternal glory?
Nerfing YOUR overview, whilst boosting AI overview is called balance now?

Why would that be OP? A well fitted frigate can kill that spawn. I could probably kill it in a T1 fit that any Alpha can use.

Imagine getting salty over PvE.

:laughing:

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I didn’t say anything about the overview or AI. Just that some rooms are designed to kill certain fits. The balance is the fact that destruction feeds the game economy and that a player is less likely to just print money. Unlike Pochven, which can be disrupted by players, abyss is instanced and you can only be disrupted by other players outside of it, so Fenris makes rooms that can counter some of the common fits players come up with. This is less so in low tier abyss, but very apparent with high tier.

If you can’t handle loss, this game isn’t for you.

How is it like a CASINO when you can take that shitfit alpha Rifter and win every time?

How is that a gamble? What aspect of it is left to chance?

You’re just playing poorly, ignoring all of the freely offered advice you’re given, and then throwing your hands in the air and claiming it’s impossible despite all evidence to the contrary.

It’s you, man. You’re the common denominator in all of your unsuccessful Eve ventures.

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haha he finally got you :rofl:

man, I bet this guy is some kind of social experiment AI, testing how far he can go before people just explode ^^

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I think that would honestly give me comfort when compared against the alternative.

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You can’t blame the movement commands in game for your abysmal piloting. This video you posted at 1hr.44min mark is a perfect example, you spin the camera untill you are looking from outside the arena and almost die to the boundry. Thats on you

You talk too much, sometime.