I played Eve 38mo ago (3 years) and am starting to get the itch to come back (I saw a notification for the new DLC Invasion on Youtube). However, after browsing the forums/reddit, it seems that Eve is full of problems. My biggest concern, since this is Eve, and I figure I need at least a year to play to get back into it, is it worth it to start it up again with a lot of people hating on the game or leaving the game? The community seems to almost be less professional and nerdy than it used to be, and I donāt want to fly around for 4 hours looking for people to PvP with but not be able to find anyone since thereās fewer people playing nowadays.
Maybe Iām completely wrong as well and the game is alive as usual, but just seems CCP and Eve are in a darker place atm and, from the community response, seem to only be digging themselves into a deeper hole.
I logged into my Alpha account yesterday and realized Iād have to re-learn the entire system since everything did not seem familiar to me, which actually makes me want to play more. I donāt really mind all the new stuff, I do wish they would be less hand-holding, but I understand why they are doing that.
I think thatās accurate. IMO the drive to a happy safe theme-park has gone on for way too long and itās really killed a lot of the soul. Plus add borked economy and get a lot of bitternessā¦well more than normal anyways.
Welcome back! Can I have your (old) stuff?
(itās still the best game out there thoughā¦sadly)
People always like to complain about problems on reddit and the forum, donāt let that hold you back.
(Sure, some complaints are valid, but overall the game seems to be in a great state imo.)
And getting into the game should take less time than the first time you started playing. After all, I assume you have some basic knowledge and (a) character(s) with some skills now to start with!
If youāre interested in giving EVE another try and ādonāt want to fly around for 4 hours looking for PvPā, there are some corporations in null sec space that are open for people with little experience, and as a result, attract all kinds of PvP content that comes flying towards you! At least, thatās my experience in Brave Newbies.
CCP has lost (or never had, except for the original designers, long gone now) their concept of āwhat makes EVE interesting?ā and āwhy would a player choose to play EVE rather than the competition?ā. Until they regain that focus, CCP will continue to flail about with misguided efforts they later remove from the game (because nobody actually wanted them), events that everybody dislikes (because they donāt understand what motivates players to play) and drifting away from EVEās PvP focus into āFarmville in Spaaaaace!ā because they donāt understand what makes players more willing to take risks than simply accumulate more wealth against āthe day that EVE becomes fun againā.
Thus, āis it worth it to come backā all depends on why you like EVE to begin with. If āFarmville in Spaceā appeals to you, then EVE is worth coming back to. If seeking out a good corp and socializing with the people in it while semi-AFKing some game grind is interesting, then EVE is a good place (assuming you can find that corp).
If you are looking for space adventure, engaging content, and the occasional pulse-quickening PVP encounterā¦ well then no, EVE isnāt really worth coming back to. Because CCP has forgotten what it takes to make those things happen.
(Hint: It isnāt ridiculously one-sided encounters against people who are null-farming 8 accounts so they can supercharge their main. And it isnāt content where the grind, the minimum requirements to complete, and the risk equal 5x as much as the crappy rewards.)
However, Alpha is a thing now, and itās one of the few good things (despite the āsub-forevah!ā haters) that CCP has accomplished in the last 5 years. Although sadly they pretty much muffed the implementation and so itās only a portion of the benefit it could be.
As Alpha, you can experience almost half of what EVE has to offer in the way of āthings to get you interested in playingā. Alpha for a few months, re-learn the systems, poke around some things you havenāt done recently, join a decent corp. Then you will be able to answer your own question.
To be fair abyss farmers are not farming isk - just lik tag farming. This is wealth redistribution as isk from this is not created from thin air - it comes from trading what you get in loot. You could even say it is isk sink considering broker fees etc.
I want these stupid structures to go away. ISK needs to leave EVE, not stay in a few peopleās hands.
Abyss space was supposed to be a ship sink, not another ISK faucet.
Traveling in the past via JBs required planning and not just yoloing around.
NEAR2 is a plague! It removes the need for people to pay attention on EVE. Instead they just need to listen to a ping.
JBs could be camped in the past, in order to intercept people moving around. This is now hardly possible.
Itās not. Some changes look interesting at a glance and turn out the same boring pattern. Fly somewhere kill ships for no reason get some skins etc. but no meaning, no story depth.
And of course, null sec getting all the freebies. High sec being boring as hell and no rewards. Low sec no love.
I just donāt get why they never invested in some story writers to add something unexpected to the universe. why are there no random space station npc guests asking the player to smuggle a crate of X to a specific stations, somehere on the way you get randomly pulled out of warp into a pocket where you defend the X against people who want something. If you get podded by them your pod ends up in a Gurista strong hold where you have to hack to escape if you win you interrogate the Gurista ambush leader and realize there is something fishy about the shady guy who gave you X. and so on.
Bottom line: subscribe. do a month or two, realize why you left in the first place and unsubscribe againā¦
Reminds me, I wanted to unsub my 6 accounts two months ago. Sid Meier copyright. Just another skill complete.
Generally what everyone has already said but for me, itās spending the majority of effort in creating primarily solo PvE content that is more suited for X4 than a MMOā¦I get that they needed to do that to some degree but Iād put forth that they when whole-hog instead.
Invasion of the triangles anyone?
Itās not about making it harder, itās about giving us more toys to play with in the sandbox and letting us make our own fun.
Itās worth trying. You will see for yourself.
I would say that itās worth to come back. Also itās worth to start from scratch as a brand new player to EVE. Itās all individual obviously. But hey, you can do this for free as an Alpha.
I agree that reading through this forum or reddit isnāt very encouraging most of the time and hence I donāt read it much. Itās an internet forum after all. Nothing surprising.
Honestly, if this is the takeaway you have, itās not worth it for you to come back.
Game game is actually doing alright. If youāre talking about high level nullsec power bloc type of conflicts, sure, itās a little stagnant. But the fact is that most players wonāt ever have to deal with that on their day-to-day individual gameplay.
So you havenāt played for 3 years, but somehow feel qualified to make this claim based on a couple of forum posts and threads on r/eve? Yikes. With this attitude, youāre probably better off not coming back.
