Afaik there is at least 3 active threads re high sec ganking right now from 3 separate users. Are you saying it the same person?
A month from now there is likely going to be 3 separate active threads again but from 3 new people. But its all the same guy! Its actually a conspriacy. Take care im out
No modern game should be forcing PvP on its players. It’s unethical. Games should be forcing players to cooperate, instead of enabling them to engage in skulduggery. There’s already enough suffering in the real world. We don’t need it in our virtual worlds too.
The thread so far…
Noob chess player : ’ I think knights being able to jump over things and take me is unfair !’
Entire chess Community : ’ That’s how the game has been for 500 years ’
Noob chess player : ’ But it’s unfair ! ’
Entire chess community : ’ It’s not unfair as all players are subject to the same rules ’
Noob chess player : ’ But I want to be able to sit my King in the middle of the board and enjoy the peace and quiet ! ’
Entire chess community : ’ That’s not how you play chess ’
Noob chess player : ’ Well it OUGHT to be how you play chess…I’m sure many agree ’
Entire chess community : ’ Why don’t you try another game…that you might actually enjoy ?’
Noob chess player : ’ Nooo ! I want to hang about like a dog in a manger in this game and tell everyone how miserable I am ’
And a week after that, 3 more. Then 3 more. Until the heat death of the universe. But it won’t matter because that’s not this game. You are like an old man yelling at clouds. Go yell somewhere else so we don’t have to hear it on our street.
Here’s what can happen when you join a null-sec group.
You will get on team speak and 10 people under the age of 30 will talk in that annoying Gen Z uptalk and say “bruh…” 300 times a minute. People will ask stupid questions, you will try to answer, and some nerd will start arguing about it. Someone else will say the earth is flat and start arguing that birds aren’t real. Then someone will say something racist and someone else will pretend to be jerking off and have a full on orgasm on line, but it won’t be anyone you want to hear do that, and everyone will just act like that’s how it is.
Then you will trying to warp to sites but other alliance members will land on the sites and take them and you’ll be sitting there bitching that there is nowhere to rat because sites are taken. Or you will show up to a site that is half done that someone abandoned, start working it, and find their MTU soaking up the salvage from it that you wanted.
Someone from another corp will complain to your corp that you are a site thief, you will be warned not to do whatever the **** it was again to keep the peace when you really didn’t do anything because everyone has to share this and neighboring systems.
Then you will be ratting and one of your buddies will say “I’m tackled.” And you will have to dock up and get a combat ship and go fight whatever gang has jumped your friend.
Then you can dock back up and get back in your ratting ship.
You will go somewhere and there will be a ship wreck. You will loot it. It is worth billions. You are so happy! WOOHOO! You tell your friends. Three days later you will hear that someone lost that ship who is in your alliance, and you stole their wreck and they want the loot returned. They will threaten to kick you if you don’t.
But wait, now it’s mandatory fleet time! Get in the required fit for a combat ship, and then jump 40 jumps to get out of safety space to disputed space. By now it’s been an hour and you need to leave but you are in a ship 1 hour away from home. You can turn back and take your chances or self-destruct. Whatever fight the FC thought he had arranged will not materialize, and you will end up going home. But you will have a credit toward fleet participation, and you need a minimum number per month or you get kicked out.
That’s what it was like for me in one big alliance in null.
Another group I flew with was just a group of ten guys who liked to have fun. If I logged in, they were happy to see me. They would ask if you wanted to do things. They did lots of stuff together - they all ratted sites together really fast and did things as a group activity. They were some great guys with good experience and advice. They shared their problems and offered help to each other. Everything was about community. It was a blast.
So when you pick a group in null, ask some of these questions or you will find you are basically just some slave labor for them to build titans off of:
I’ve experienced both sorts of corp - one that had no requirements, but also did not provide me any support - one that did all of the requirements but was also a hell hole of control.
There are different sorts of corps and alliances. Don’t let them interview you like you are looking for a job. They aren’t going to pay you. You are going to pay them to be in their space, use their stations, rat their sites, and be in their fleets. Interview them and find out if they are worth your time. Most are not, but some are.
Move slowly. Don’t ship all of your belongings to Null. Leave everything in high-sec, take your wallet with you, and buy things when you get there as you need them. You might only be a member for three days before you decide they all should be in supermax lockup and decide to sell your stuff on contract or asset safety it away from them and go home to high-sec.
All I said was, that Nullsec is generally safer than you’ll be in HS, with very few exceptions. I do not disagree with your take on how most Medium to Large size Corps/Alliances/Coalitions are run, even small ones can be run that way. Luckily for me I have been in some great corps (small one) over the years - not seeing much activity as of late, in my current corp, but that is to be expected, I guess? 
IRL stuff, one’s interests change over time (“less time to play video games”), family obligation, etc., etc.
OP was complaining about systems changing around the hole he dug for himself, and I provided a simple explanation and an alternative option to his predicament. Be it better or worse than his current situation is up to him to decide.
I don’t tend to summarize things like this. For the sake of this OP it is necessary.
But HS is super big. Gankers are not in every corner of HS. Go check zkill and you can find systems that have had no ganks for months. Let alone anything going on.
Just a fact lads. Will anyone reading this take the knowledge I shared here and change their EVE careers? Eah. Maybe 
Yes people, it is that simple as relocating away from jita.
But I want to be within 2 jumps from Jita at all times in case I need to buy a space taco when I get hungry.
But but but. YOU KNOW BETTER 
Go have the taco shipped via the big companies like Redfrog or something. 
It’s because the Nerf Ganking Megathread was closed down in Sep '22. No more merging new threads. Alas.
Yes, it’s that simple.
Yes, the subject is that old, probably even from 2003…
And it’s a safe place to show off ignorance and say silly things.
as others have said there is a very simple mechanic - when the timer goes off (big huge countdown clock) that your system could be into insurgency you log on, move your miner to sec .8 systems and continue crushing rocks to your hearts content.
There are just a few easy changes which CPP could do…
Be clear about the end game of insurgency. It is maddening to read through every update and still not find a clear and concise answere to what happens once the pirates get to the needed number of systems.
Provide rewards for those high sec miners to dab their toe into PVP: The game IS about pvp and any efforts to market it otherwise is false advertising (which CPP is guilty of). Insurgency offers opportunities here but it needs to STRONGLY reward players for working on supression. Right now there are almost no benefits to that.
And at the meta level a problem here is that the learning curve is ridiculously steep AND they dont’ have a good way of creating learning enviroments to help people get up that ramp. Having a vexor crushed by a Hectate is not learning. And so rather than play endlessly (and lose) for the chance that people come across similarly skilled new players folks stick to PVE activities. Then they get mad when those are taken away. Hard games are not a problem. Hard games without ramp to learn are.
It is not about space tacos. It is about the whole system.
There are people who are ready to hang in lowsec space for hours together in order to kill one player and compare the length of their e-&*^% on zkillboard, and there are those who come to play for an hour after work in a quiet highsec.
And both are important for the game’s economy. And the dollar of both types of these players is the same dollar in CCP wallet.
But now the CCP is forcing those second ones to play by the rules of the first. It is scary for them to live in claim nullsec. But they want entertainment for free. And CCP turns highsec into low for them.
And it’s disappointing.
Why bother then? Lets just remove all this unnecessary hisec activities, implement lootboxes $5 each and here you have it. Heavenly made PVP game for every lowsec dude!
Not everyone in love with THIS kind of PvP.
I’ve been living in claim nullsec 1 week after my first log in. I fly each and every ship and I fought each and every war EvE had since then. I’ve been fliying with and against all these reds, solars, gypsies, bees, you name it.
But it should be my right to chose whether I want to participate in FW or not, if I have decided to move into hisec from null. Or not to ever move outside of hisec or even one hisec system.
I guess that is where I get confused. You have that right. You have to jump like three systems and move the mining stuff you want with you. Put the other stuff into an NPC station. Is it a little bit of effort? Sure. But not onerous (or at least I don’t think so). With clarity about when the forced FW will end you know that this is like an inconvenient rainstorm. Frustrating, maddening, but it will be over and the forecast sorta tells you about when.
I really do not believe insurgency is about letting pvp or gankers beat up on little sisters of mercy. It was about trying to encourage more players to engage in more pvp since CPP rightly understands that is the core of their game. Where they failed is not figuring out the WHY of people avoiding PVP. And it ins;t cause they all just wanted to mine rocks for hours on end over and over.
You have the point. And I agree with it.
That’s funny, I could say I have the opposite experience. If I cherry-picked from my experiences.
After a hard days work people chill together zipping around gates and systems talking to each other and having a chill conversation, occasionally creating wrecks along the way. Everyone is having a positive time, sometimes along the way we lose our ships too. No problem, reship and keep discussing things like recipes.
It’s when an explorer or other PvP avoidant person gets killed they decide to mass send EvE mail telling us how they are going to This content has been removed - ISD Kai They then proceed to notification spam us with the „Set Terrible Standing and Notify“ button to really ensure we understand how enraged they are.
The difference between our experiences apparently is I’ve learned stereotypes aren’t accurate and no matter the activity, space class, etc in Eve there are a mix of decent people and ugly personalities.
But if you want to stand by your stereotypes then I offer the above and you can figure out how to reconcile them.
You made a new whinebaby alt.
Would it be equally funny if you were forced to mine full orca of veldspar along with you friends when you are preparing to roam a little bit in your funny little ospray navy fleet? Not because it is fun tou you, but because CCP decided to make MINER EXPANSION an now your system is overwhelmed with hisec miners?
My point is. it is all fun when it is YOUR choice. And it is NOT fun anymore, if your lowsec is now highsec and concord kills you whenever you try to undock and vice-versa. Or you have to mine in a rookie ship full ore hold of Orca just to board your Trasher or Ospret or whatever coercer you guys are flying.
And I doubt it would be equally fun if all this great guys just point fingers at you and give brilliant advices " just move your assets closer to nullsec. You know there is Mining expansion, everything higher than 0.1 can become highsec veldspar mining eldorado now with all guns restricted policy."
I loved EvE for its truly sandbox feeling with “you can do whatever you want” filosofy. Not “you can either PvP if you want to, or we will force you to PvP, because it is all this game is about now”.
Something like this would be a great idea. We should get a module that forces other players to mine asteroids for us like slaves. Anyone who has attacked/stolen from/scammed another player in the last 5 years would be eligible for slave-flagging. All you have to do is target and click, and they’re “tethered” to you and automatically follow you to your mining location. The effect duration would last 3 hours, and any ore mined in that state would be given to you.
If they can grief anyone they want by attacking them without consequences, then we should be able to take custody of them and make them perform labor, just like in real-life prisons. Repeat after me: enough is enough, and we aren’t going to take it anymore!