Dear CCP is this right?

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Dear CCP (this will be sent to custom support)

First i like to say English is not my native language so there will be spelling errors and other mistakes in this…

I have played this game since 2006 (Science and Trade Institute 2006.06.08 17:57 to 2006.12.30 13:25 (204 Days) i have never plexed my accounts and yes like most players i have more than one account.
I have payed my month sub every month… Payed so you (CCP) can make an better gaming experience for all of us.

Like most players i have been on and off EVE, you need that break :slight_smile:…
Have tried almost any thing you can do in this game, high sec, low sec, null sec, wh, and incursion. and i have found all of it, fun and different gaming experiences.

2 weeks ago we had burn Jita, i didnt lose any ship, but i did follow the event on Twitch and on zkillboard. I could not stop felling sorry for a lot of those who lost ships in this event, some was very new to the game and other was just not aware of the event, you can see some killmails are pepol who have spent a lot of times collecting stuff over maybe months and then it just get blown up… The replay you get would be something like this… "eve is an sandbox game and it is part of the game stop cry and dont undock what you can effort to lose :slight_smile:)

For me this is not the truth. Yes its and sandbox game (importent word here is game) in games you make the laws and rules CCP could in 1 min remove the code from the game so this could not happend… Games means a lot of things for diff pepol some find it fun and some dont find it fun. This is somthing i think you need to be aware of at CCP… High sec should be an place where pvp is not allowed or if you break it ther should be some kind of punishment. All other games MMO has zones wher pvp is not allowed why not eve ???

Next i was flying in my pimped ishtar around 2.2 bill in high sec and was having an great time doing anoms and getting escalations. Then code got me… I was very sad and spent a good time thinking hmm “is this how it should be” Here people will use the same "eve is an sandbox game and it is part of the game stop cry and dont undock what you can effort to lose :slight_smile:) for me it has nothing to do about isk, i have more than enough for living an good life in eve. its more about the gaming exp. Is this how i will spent my gameing exp, or will i find other games. will i keep paying my month sub. (just so you know CCP the most used phrase in marketed economy is “costumer is always right”) if not they leave…

Next i got the idea i would love to have my own space station. Just to try (for me new part of the game), setting it up, fitting it etc. Was fun but 2 weeks later i got wardeced by The Marmite Collective Declares War… again it is totally fine i was planing to take it down any way. But the wardeck now means i cant fly around and do the other stuff i like in this game missions, mining, anims, etc as i dont want to pvp. i have done lots of pvp when i was in null sec and i loved it. This was in null sec wher i think pvp should be part of the game… Again CCP could if they whant to fix this in 2 mins as the gaming code can be changed.

Dear CCP i love your game and i have been an happy costummor for an long time but as you can see the game is taking some turns i really dont like. I have to tell you that i am very close to cancel my sub and say goodbey. I hope this mail (costumsuport) can tell the story of one of your players who would like to see some changes to high sec and pvp. Maybe take some focus from null sec and put some effort in makeing hs fun for all player base…

-Argox

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I too feel your pain. What has EVE come to if a very new player cannot safely fly around in his freighter with 20b in cargo? Is that really as it should be? :disappointed_relieved:

No of course not! Every single one of those freighters could have been saved if the owner had read the CODE and was in possession of a valid mining permit. As you were apperently also flying an ishtar without a mining permit, let me provide a handy link to the CODE: MinerBumping.com: The Code

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So much bling, and given he was caught on a gate probably using AP.

Some of it dropped too, so someone had a good day; it wasn’t the OP though.

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EvE is a sandbox game where social interactions and emergent content are a huge part of the fun to be had. EvE always had a lot of metagaming going around it so being aware of the in-game situation via 3rd-party outlets including but not limited to forums, blogs and various chat-channels is almost paramount.

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Never fly anything you can’t afford to lose. :explodyparrot:

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Under new wardec mechanics as soon as you dont have any structures to destroy for the attacking side anymore the war would be deemed invalid and end in 24 hours.

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I know :slight_smile:

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Think i did comment that in the post…

("eve is an sandbox game and it is part of the game stop cry and dont undock what you can effort to lose :slight_smile:) for me it has nothing to do about isk, i have more than enough for living an good life in eve. its more about the gaming exp.)

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It is part of the experience, the thrill of never being 100% safe. It is one of the key elements that make EVE unique.

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I totally understand your point… No game makes you fell like this when you engage in pvp.
BUT the game gives you many opportunities to get this felling you can go low sec null sec wh, and fw if you like this gaming exp. Do we need it in HS ? Is it an good gaming exp for pepol who don’t like to pvp but love another gaming style ? i just try to tell it from my point off view and yes i can be wrong…

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I understand your sentiments even if I don’t quite agree with you.

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I think it is good to have it in hisec too. Hisec is already very safe and even just basic common sense can save you from 99% of trouble. The experience would be much less meaningful if you could opt out of PvP entirely. Maybe this is not for everyone, but I think people should embrace it (along with their losses) instead of being afraid of it. This is just a game and people should not be all too attached to their things. It is the journey that matters, and losses are part of it, people should not feel bad losing space pixels even if they “worked” for that stuff. I think what should be changed instead is how people view negative events. Play EVE as a game not as a job nor taking it too seriously, so you won’t be taken down by some losses, and might even feel comfortable sharing not just stories of victory / “achievements” but defeats and failures as well. Nothing to be ashamed of even if you mess up and lose stuff. I think this is what should be emphasized instead and could lead to a more healthy player community and better gameplay experience for all.

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we dont have to agree your point is as good as mine, i just had to tell CCP how i felt… I love this game and i hope i can stay in it for an long time… Lots of stuff has changed and some for the bether some for the worse, but if we dont tell them how we see the game is working how should they know… (allmost all members of CMM are from Null sec blocks)

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I have walked the same path as you, I have tried to explain why bumping is out of wrack and all I get is insults for that.

I am a little concerned about pure indy players in hisec giving up, but I think that they should become part of a bigger group that can try to defend their stuff and conflict is what makes Eve what it is and hisec is still a part of that.

I am glad to see you posting, please continue.

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Blockquote This is just a game and people should not be all too attached to their things. It is the journey that matters, and losses are part of it, people should not feel bad losing space pixels even if they “worked” for that stuff. I think what should be changed instead is how people view negative events. Play EVE as a game not as a job nor taking it too seriously, so you won’t be taken down by some losses, and might even feel comfortable sharing not just stories of victory / “achievements”

I agree its an game… So we should make fun gaming exp for the player base…

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Exactly and when you realize losing ships can be just as fun as blowing stuff up or dominating the market or manufacturing stuff or becoming space rich or whatever your playstyle and personal goal you seek in EVE is achieved, then your fun will no longer be ruined by losses, instead will be enriched by them.

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I dont take them serius ther will allways be trolls, and we cant all have the same ideas.

“Not engaging in ignorance is wisdom.” :slight_smile:

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But what if you cant play like you want to, because other players ruin your gaming exp. ? I set up an station i HS CPP gave me the opportunity to play with it so i decided to try it out, looked like an fun gaming exp. Then some corp decide to declare war on me and take away that gaming exp is that ok ?
If i would have liked fighting over it i could have placed it in diff space like null sec low sec etc.

hope you get my point :slight_smile:

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I think the gaming experience of Eve is the challenge, the key thing that CCP needs to get right is the balance of that challenge in hisec.

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Agree

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