And the subscriptions start to end:
And no they are not all bots. Apparently faction warfare is all the rage for botters nowadays so they would have just moved there.
My accounts were most definitely handrolically piloted at all times.
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Without all the unwarranted sarcasm - What strategy would you use as a solo ratter/miner when a covert cyno lights up right next to you and less than 5 seconds later you are surrounded by 20 or 30 bombers? Or, lets make that 40 T3âs and a few blops.
Do you think your ratting carrier can insta lock and kill a T3 with a lit covert cyno before his fleet arrives?
Do you think youâll survive long enough to alt tab and light your own cyno, which may or may not be on grid with you?
Looking at cyno changes from a hunters point of view - Nothing changes, except you canât see me in local, so have way less time to react when i decloak on you.,.
Be as sarcastic as you like - The only thing that changes with the coming cyno ânerfâ (joke) is that you canât fit them to anything other than Recons.
For covert cynos - Nothing changes, they will operate as usual, except now with BO continuing for an undetermined time, they are now more deadly than ever before and there is even less counter to them now than ever before.,.
Its going to be VERY rare to get that many T3s on a BLOPS drop. Ever try it? There is a mass consumption modifier and more than a few T3cs totally drains the a BLOPS tiny little fuel bay. This is why titans have a fuel bay that rivals a DSTs fleet hangar, a blops has 1250m3. Youâd need a damn near full fuel truck to kick 40 T3s anywhere.
Bombers, bombers are easy you can shoot a couple hundred with a full bay.
None. There is no counter to that.
I appeal to sarcasm when facing cherrypicking. Here is the question again:
Do you think the cyno nerf, which according to some, helps in absolutely nothing to the possible implementation of strategies for the exercise of PVE in Null, is a band-aid over BO?
Do you believe cyno ganks will be more or less viable IF the BO is removed?
My point (for the third time) is that CCP stated that chaos was in part adopted as a way to shake the loop of patching over wrong decisions, which has been going on FOR YEARS. I say that now those wrong decisions are put to play openly under the chaos argument and since itâs chaos, it validates the fact that it can be a wrong path.
I couldnât care less if you or anyone else cannot see a difference in the Null landscape with the introduction of cyno nerf. Itâs your armada, not mine. I say there are possibilities for SOME PVE given that your system and surroundings are NOT INFESTED. Do I have to ask you to go back and read again? No, right?
The fact that you canât foresee that Revs will no longer be used tough guys style, gating around as toasting capbait because they no longer have that cyno protection, doesnât mean anything to me at all.
Focus, guys⌠itâs happening again. Here is ANOTHER WH style mechanics introduced to Null. I said it from day one! There is nothing new. There is no chaos.
Of course someone will jump to say⌠myeah but there are no cyno in WH⌠ugh! Of course not! but a cyno is a jump as a WH gate is. And they differ from most gates in the fact that projection is limited.
And even if you cannot see this, shall I repeat the essence again? ⌠I want CCP to innovate. I pay for that! I would love to have a way to exercise my right to protest and demand that they get to work.
Chaos could have been perfect! If only some of these fat-ass crews put up to it and deliver a thoughtful product, because it has potential to be!
Just imagine if CHAOS was given to the pilots, with new weapons, with new, inviting challenges⌠just think of it. Think of a BO in the hands of a pilot. Think of decloaking drag bubbles. Think of whatever you want, it doesnât matter because itâs too much work for those on payroll. Too much work.
But nah, some people here love to have their arses detached, grinded, spit on and returned with a swift kick.
They are doing this because it requires less effort and I am trying to see if anyone agrees THAT THE CYNO NERF IS PATCH TO BO. And if BO is no more, then Cynos would become HARDER, not impossible. Now, lastly, will the BO be removed now that we will have the cyno nerf?
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You know what Blackout bestowed on you?
The right to dock.
Viva la chaos!
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all these surprize changes pave the way to microtransactions.
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CCP Hilmar: We need to do something about titans.
This person is just as clueless as EVEâs online character count is low these days. Very. This person has been with CCP from the beginning, probably helped design titans and then roflderped EVE into structures and allowed them to dock in the first place and made it ridiculously easy to build these things. And now, years after his dumb roflderping, he says that something is afoul and needs to be fixed. No wonder that CCP messes up all the time with this kind of head of operations.
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Wow, just wow.
CCP are only happy to take our money for us to buy plex and build these things, but then, when everyone has got the biggest ship in game he moans about it. Seriously.
Why do you think there are so may Titans in game now? Simple, you gave us the tools and ability to obtain them and to instantly put brand new chars into them without the time investment required. Skill injectors anyone?
And now you complain about the environment you created.
I am glad Hilmar isnât the CEO or a company, say like Apple or Samsung. He would probably turn around and say â I cant believe everyone purchased our best products, now we have millions of them out there. Lets make our customers suffer and impose restriction on the mobile devices they have purchased. But please, keep buying form usâ.
Do you not do a risk analysis when you make any major game mechanic changes or do you just make change to be seen to be doing something?
If you do not consider the long term effects of major mechanic changes in game then donât blame the players for maximizing on the potential that these changes may produce.
Isnât the fact that there is such a number of titans testament to the players aspiration in achieving such a goal? I would like to think that the Titan owners of the players who have invested most time and effort into this game and are the long standing players who support the community.
I look at it this way. If you (CCP) add an item into the game, donât be surprised when every player eventually owns one. If you are surprised, then you didât analyze the effect that said item would have on the game and you can not blame players for this lack of analysis, nor should you punish them.
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boring, no targets, no mining â â â â ⌠it´s time for a new game with content and fun. 
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Iâm not sure whether you are referring to the reduction of PVE that has already hit Nul for everyone but the largest groups or if you think there may be some new strategy with the cyno nerf to allow smaller groups to exist and PVE.
All CCP can do from now on is apply bandaids to all the damage they have done to the game over the last 5 or 6 years.
Unless there is an Eve 2.0 in the way - This version is doomed to suffer from past poor design and planning with even poorer patching.
BO + cyno nerfs will give well planned covert cyno drops a 100% success rate. With no counter to them they will just become more and more common further reducing the ability of smaller sov holding groups to hold space.
With or without BO cyno nerfs will have little affect on the largest groups while at the same time further punish smaller groups.
Really funny thing about that is - All the Era of Chaos is so far - patching over poorly made decisions from years gone by - CCP themselves have said they are experimenting with BO and Cyno changes and they will be adjusted if it is needed. Only problem is - For years CCP have continually shown, they donât know what is and isnât good for the game - What makes the Era of Chaos any different.
From the point of view of smaller alliances and individual groups (especially those in NPC nul) - The Era of Chaos is bringing about a complete end to their chosen game play.
Some will adapt and move to different areas of game play - Highsec, Lowsec, Join a Bloc - Others (as we are seeing now) will just stop logging in and wait and see what happens - The rest (and there is a lot of them) will just quit and move on to other things.
Then of course we have the real problem of Era of Chaos - Secrecy, CCP are not in any way communicating with their loyal player base what comes next.
This is possibly the worst thing about all of this - CCP will do as they choose regardless of how it affects different play styles - They will do it under the guise of 'Era of Chaos" for better or worse.
I do not for one second believe CCP have a âPLANâ for the Era of Chaos, they are making it up as they go hoping they get at least one part of it right.
So far it is 2 for ZERO.
Those at CCP want to think VERY carefully about how much harder they want to make the game for older players who have dedicated many years to the game - They now have families and jobs that can impact how much time they have to dedicate to the game.
Iâm not sure the game could survive too many of the oldest richest players in the game leaving and passing their characters (and riches) on to others.
Iâve recently seen another game take this avenue - As a result; They just reduced from 128 servers world wide to just 22 in less than a year - Because management thought it ok to make it harder for older players. The game is now filled with âcredit card warriorsâ (the instant gratification crowd) who so far play for less than 3 months before moving on to the next pay for fun game. Server populations are still dropping, those of us who have been there for a while and still login are waiting for management to announce the next round of âserver mergesâ - A luxury CCP donât have, they lose players from the server they canât merge another server to boost numbers.
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or you could actually learn how to play eve tbh but yâknow, gl in your other game which you will probably also be inredibly bad at 
i think u mean âjoined goons to buy titans then leftâ surely?
My clone was so unhappy she killed herself earlier today⌠but then respawnedâŚ
Do you have the link for the interview?
I am coming to the conclusion that everything we say in here is going into a black hole. Maybe I am wrong but I have not heard anything from any CCP representative.
This is nothing more than a waste of time if CCP doesnât address our concerns.
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I think they really dont know what to do. They are stuck trying to find solutions to have more players⌠atleast stop losing players⌠And it seems they do the exact opposite.
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Welcome to EvE online where the concerns of everyone who was not in Null have been ignored for over a decade.
I posted the links in a reply to you a few posts above:
lol made my day dude, pls can u teach me how to play eve? how i can drop with a bunch of others at defenseless victims, or kill cynoships? or paly as F1 drone. come back if u can play in my league ⌠sensless such stupid ppl. that think they are the one and only pvp masters and al other´s don´t know how it is doing.
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Honestly if you cant do that already I really donât think eve is for you sorry.
i dont want to be in your league, losing all the time isnt much fun.