I see a legitimate problem with the game, but all the solutions i see from CCP and in this thread are mostly just tackling that issue like an accountant trying to balance the books
Thats not how you make an entertaining game. Fixing the problem doesnt matter if the solution ruins the gameâs fun.
Stop.
I think they are just more risky with what theyâre willing to try to hit the headlines. They cant make headlines anymore with large playercount fights, because there isnt enough players left for that.
They wanted the headlines to say âOldest MMO shakes things up and its old players are mad! now is the perfect time to join eveonline Get in on the NEW ground floor!!!â
Theyâre more willing to risk their player base now that higher ups have emotionally detached themselves enough to even consider a sale. They dont want to destroy the game. They want to save it, but theyâre willing to be much more reckless about it.
Headlines bring in players. And their bonuses depend on bringing in players. Cue the free skill month and nullsec wrecking ball
I agree with you. nothing good for the players. everything is just bad. politics must be changed otherwise the game will die
You are so right but what they are doing is only going to garner poor headlines.
EG;
- CCP sells out to PA.
- CCP tries to shake things in Eve up with changes that drive many players to join and form Larger and Larger groups in an effort to maintain some sort of active game play.
- Many of these changes only contribute to the current issue of stagnancy in what used to be the primary battlegrounds for the game.
- Eve Onlineâs history of Poor new player retention is being overshadowed with the amount of existing long term players reducing the amount of accounts they run and generally being online less.
Tbh the longer this Chaos era continues the less I believe it has anything to do with stagnation, âgame healthâ or generating content.
Itâs purely a way to polish numbers and reach the defined targets set out by PA.
Blackout is making it harder to PvE in null, so they hope more people will switch to buying and selling plexes in order to maintain their PVP.
Cyno changes make it necessary to train up alts inside a timeframe that is too short to do it âthe old fashioned wayâ hence the hope players will buy injectors ( and then there conveniently is a -15% discount injector sale till 1st of September)
Itâs all about quarterly revenue targets.
And the only thing they will succeed in doing is getting the game shut
CCP F.U.B.A.R
You cannot see it as you are only looking at what is happening to null, lo-sec and hi have a lot more people in them now, mineral prices are climbing and its looking up.
Yes they maybe loosing Null players who plex but this has been happening for a long time, thats why the plex price is so high.
BO and soon the cyno changes are the best things to happen to EvE in years.
Mark you cannot see it mate
- The game only stays open while it is financially viable to do so. Losing players increases the risk of game closure.
- Sandbox changes on this level can happen anywhere, when the only players left are those in high-sec or wormholes where do you think they will happen next?
Mate you are too bought into this being a good idea that you canât stand back and ask yourself the questions:
But what are the actual numbers of paying customers?
How many of those who log in are paying customers?
Was CCP telling the truth that they got the most unique numbers in 5 years?
What is the current effect WOW classic is having?
As to sandbox changes, it was the changes to null over the last 15 years of making the risk vs reward so out of whack that has caused the major loss of players, fixing it will lose them some entitled players but will hopefully bring back others.
It is not the numbers of players that matter, it is the number of customers who pay for their accounts and buy plexes with real money that matters.
What you are missing champ is that money exchanges hands for every account save alphaâs. Plex generates income through the initial purchase of it.
And I can definitely confirm that there are now four less actual cash paying subscriptions not being renewed. Mine.
Alphas can only run one instance of eve per computer so I think they will account for a very small amount of the population.
Your hopes arenât being fulfilled. Go here EVE-Offline :: EVE-Online Status monitor check for yourself
See my opening paragraph.
When I play with the timelines on the link above that statement doesnât appear to hold water to me so I donât understand how they are measuring that.
Really? What is the effect that free skillpoint are having?
Except you have not really answered anything, because you cannot. We do not have access to the figures that are needed.
As to Alphas becoming paying customers, until they ARE paying customers, they are a cost.
You are speculating and using it as cause for an argument, when all we know is what CCP has told us.
Mate I never said alphaâs were paying customers. I said they were the only ones that didnât pay and assumed that because they can only run one instance of eve per computer that they would be a small proportion of logins.
Mate I am relying on live data from the website I keep linking. CCP have not provided anyway to verify their data so you are in fact merely relying on hearsay to support your argument.
I think I answered more than you have and have also posed questions which you seem unwilling to contemplate because your not sure you will like the answers.
Of course it is, there is nothing like a company that is prepared to throw 30% or more of its long time players under a bus.
The âbest thing to happen to Eve in yearsâ may be the last thing the current leadership does before cleaning out their desks.,.
The reason I did not answer these questions is:
The first one, no one but CCP knows how many paying customers are leaving
There is not yet evidence of CCP doing things other than correcting their mistakes of the past, so far. So this is a hypothetical with no basis.
For the number of paying customers, that website provides NO DATA. So you might as well be showing a graph of candy bar sales in Alaska.
So still no answer.
K thanks for the open conversation.
Again why and how would I answer questions with no basis or data?
That is what is wrong with your arguments, they present no data, they are built on what you want them to say.
Meanwhile, the biggest factor, that CCP is a business and is still doing this, does not enter your argument at all.
CCP threw a lot more customers under the bus, every time it boosted Null Secs rewards over every other sector.
This is just a repair job, to try and get some of those players back.