Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread - Part Deux!

Hypothetically speaking:
The only thing that would validate bot yadayada is that a purge, never applied before, took place in a single action.

It doesn’t work that way. It’s a constant! It’s like people who left a game because couldn’t afford it. A constant average, a permanent presence, a paint job secret ingredient, a tea tint, the curve on a spoon, etc… You just can’t isolate it to inflate an event with a void attribute.

A sophism.

If “PEACE” in null space is what CCP was shooting for, then lets all stand and give them a big round of applause, because they have it.
Yes the noobs and gankers will still have their squishy kills, but true PVP is dead for now. Corps are not going to waste a valuable asset. Plus after what the CCP headshed has in store next will really put an end to capital fights! When they reduce how ore belts regenerate, Trit may become more valuable than mercoxit! Without trit no ship!
So give CCP a big slap on the back for jacking up one if the few multiplayer games left!

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And the activity continues to plummet, when will it bottom out?

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I keep wondering where the “massive rewards” with “no risk” were. Apparently only in mega alliances. The isk was good , but it took work for smaller groups. All the blackout has done is push small groups out of Null or out of game and did little to the big groups. In return, we get players that flitter in and out of game instead of long term players. its not a rebalance it is a destruction of gameplay for a significant number of players.

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Yes, that’s exactly it.
We little ones, we stop the game, we can not afford to defend ourselves

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If CCP leaves Blackout in effect as is – Sure, the influx of isk will continue to slow and perhaps ISK inflation will stabilize. However, they’ll continue to lose players and a significant portion of their $$ income.
Blocs will just get bigger and bigger and at some point, there will be so much blue in the game the stagnation they tried to fix will be ridiculous.
Unless these grandiose claims of record setting numbers of new players is true - and that these numbers will/are offsetting the lost players - it will not be a “win” at quarterly budget meetings…
Secondly, if the goal was to bring in fresh blood… Think about this objectively for second. If you’ve never played this game before, how the heck would you know what Blackout means?? Blackout will only matter once you’ve been playing the game long enough to see the Pros and Cons of Blackout to your play style.
As for returning players I’ll comment on that later…

If CCP removes Blackout, many players will be cheering from all corners of the world and get back to life with Eve. They’ll rat and mine with a vengeance and all the lost isk will just flood back into the game.
Removing Blackout will cause fully grown Men and Women to scream like little girls in excitement. They’ll tear up a little and send love/apology notes to the CCP DEVs.
They’ll hug and kiss their lovedones goodbye and log in for months on end. The influx of ISK will negate the fact Blackout ever existed and may even cause the inflation to be worse off than it was for a while. However, for CCP the company, the result will be resubs, + income, and the mistake of the Blackout will be behind them.

Yes… There will be those that came back to the game because of Blackout - and they may unfortunately leave. However, as I’ve mention on a previous post, if they left once, how long until they leave again?
Why CCP would change the game for revolving door players is beyond me… Especially when their solution was giving their life long players a wet willy in return. Lifelong players that have given thousands of dollars over the years and will gladly continue.

Oh yes…. Let’s not forget about the ASTRONOMICAL amount of brand new car smell players that may leave as well….
However, until we see numbers, I’ll believe this is propaganda. Them trying to create a positive spin on things to trick players into just getting used to it.

Lastly, for those who knock players that play the game with PLEX. PLEX is only in the game because someone bought it with real cash at one point.
Whether they pay with a credit card or by PLEX, they’re still directly/indirectly putting cash into CCPs pocket. Please don’t forget that for some people PLEX is the only way they can afford to play.

We’re all equals in my books.

Signed,
Temporarily Disgruntled Capsuleer

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I dont think so, unless CCP first apologizes publicly for this debacle.

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Read through a few of the newer posts here. The salt still flows strongly!

OMG the sky is falling!
Things aren’t as easy as they were before!

Too bad. HTFU. Adapt to the new reality cowards.

Your, risk averse play style is no longer as safe as it once was in 0.0 space. You can cry as hard as you want but I’m not sympathetic, 0.0 was boring. The game mechanics made it that way.

The game is changing and needs to change, things were so very very stagnant before the blackout and chaos era started (cyno changes etc), it’s still rather stagnant but I’m optimistic about the proposed resource distribution changes, whatever they may be (I personally hope they are catastrophic for the status quo), will provide some nodes to generate conflict.

There are those that complain no one will risk their expensive powerful ships, they will lose whatever space, control etc to first that will risk those ships.

Currently, there’s no real reason to fight for space as every resource is available in every star system. It’s time to rip that apart. Then we’ll see some real conflicts happen again.

TL;DR
Step 1: Blackout (to make 0.0 scarier, and uncertain)
Step 2: Cyno changes (to make it harder to get places)
Step 3: Resource distribution changes (to force you to go places, and to shoot and get shot at doing it)

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It terrible to see such aggression and personal attacks on people who simply have a different point of view and wish to have a civilized conversation. Some folks are just not capable I see.

CCP, thank you for causing such animosity in your player base.

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I’ve lived in Null almost all of my eve career and still do. And yes I’m a team player-- almost entire small gang in recent months (which is my preferred play stye) as well as enjoying all the other numerous ways to make isk and enjoy the game among friends.

Now that we’re through your logical fallacy of shooting the messenger and using poor analysis to reach inaccurate conclusions…perhaps I should comment on your other comments–but I’m wondering if it would even even worth trying to have a civil conversation.

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I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve read this post now. Every time i do it makes more sense and I have to ask myself - Why can’t the professionals at CCP see this and do something about it rather than this “Trial and Error” development they are doing now.
Is Eve really not worth investing in for them?

Do they really want to push older and new players alike to the point they just - buckle down, dig deep and say FUK YOU CCP, bring it on, we ain’t goin nowhere and we ain’t playing your way.

Arrendis, your post should be;

  • placed on the front page of these forums and Stickied
  • re-posted on Imperium news.
  • the cover page and topic for TiS and other player related shows.
  • sent to EVERY CSM member to carry with them, at all times.
  • painted in red letters at the entrance to CCP headquarters as a reminder of what “they” did to OUR game.
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What an absolutely wonderful idea. Only problem is the whole thing is about 5 years too late.
Had CCP listened to the player base back when FozzieSov was first touted as the best thing since sliced bread, well hindsight is great.,.

What will happen if CCP decide now to introduce mechanics that force groups to fight (resource depletion for one).
Imperium, PanFam, Legacy, DeadCo will simple steamroll anyone in their way. No group that isn’t aligned to one of the Blocs will be left in NULSEC, even NPC NUL will become a land of Bloc warfare and the only winners outside the Blocs will be those who uninstall Eve and join a gardening club.
The Blocs themselves will carefully divide up who gets what because they still won’t risk their massive Super fleets.

ProviBloc is already a mere shadow of its former self and unlikely to recover unless they completely change the way they have always played the game, which would be a really sad day as they really are/were the last of the independents in Sov Nul.


Too all those who say “damn this guy” always complaining - Yep, been making the same complaints for years now, dating back to when Fozziesov was first put out there and as i love this game I will continue to yell my displeasure at how CCP manages MY GAME as loudly and as often as i can.
Don’t like it - Don’t read my posts.,.

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CCP want now only our best. our $!
and pls Old Playrs go away u don´t pay for eve, u can leave pls…

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tbh Blackout made 0.0 not scarier

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Curious, do you ever buy plex from CCP?

If yes, who do you think it is that buys it from you so you get isk for it?

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It doesn’t matter. There are 2 types of players,

  1. Players who use cash
  2. Players who don’t

Guess what the second type doesn’t help CCP pay its staff or its bills. So CCP needs to try and increase the first kind of player.

There are no proposed resource distribution changes. There are vague statements made by Hilmar at a live event where he was also talking about how EVE spoke to him in a dream about needing to complete its mission of “world domination”.

  • Won’t happen.
  • I write longer stuff for there.
  • Matterall would strangle himself before putting out anything with my name on it.
  • I’ve explained it directly to Olmeca, he doesn’t believe a word of it. The rest already know all of this.
  • Wouldn’t help.
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LOL you seriously are deluded aren’t you, or is it that you can’t post anything worth reading so just troll the same nonsense over and over.

Every player who buys plex from CCP is adding to CCP’s bottom line - Those who use that plex are what makes plex worth buying - How stupid are you.

Without those “2. Players who don’t” CCP would lose a huge share of its income

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Just ignore him. Someone posted how upthread, or I’d post it for you. You can ignore him for up to 4 months at a shot.

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Go tell your bank your want to deposit some Plex. :rofl::rofl::rofl: