Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread - Part Deux!

It s time to act CCP. Hunter here, i was used to solo roam in PH space for years. It s crazy the drop if activity in their space. I think it s almost the same everywhere in null. Null was the heart of the player base. If you kill it, we (as hunters) has almost nothing to kill in this game that will be soon be so boring. Hunter will left and it will be a fail cascade. Please act fast CCP. Also the people that left could probably not come back eventhought you act now.

Eve is a small niche game. losing player base is really bad at all.

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Problem is this is what happened every time CCP tried to fix null, threats, unsubs, etc… and CCP have always been stupid enough to give them what they want. Thats why the game is in such a mess.

If the game is a mess we un-sub, we don’t threaten. We walk the talk. BO messing things up we walk - simple.

If you think EVE is mess up, come join me. I still some knitting kit and some yarns that I can spare you.

The hunter above starting to feels the pinch. Soon more hunters will follow. Well, unless they are part of a big big big group.

Just because I like you Mark, I will give you some nice blueprint… I mean, knitting patterns to you, no charge. :smiley:

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Threats? I dont think so. For CCP it is now the reality.

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Two things:

No. I said before, I wouldn’t do such.

Impossible, as I am not logging and will allow my last accounts to expire in Nov if there is no change.

I thought your prior post meant something different if you would be the kind of individual I suspected.
Disappointed.

Told ya…
The “chaos era” will get you all!

I understand the logic behind the criticism for the “stagnancy” prior to chaos and the BO, but…
Haven’t it occurred to you guys that some people actually enjoy routine?

I have crossed three individuals who have issues with RL and I know the “carebear” game style in EVE has helped them a lot. I don’t know where they are or if they are still playing EVE. This happened a few years back. And this doesn’t mean an MMO should provide social services but most of us, one way or another use hobbies to deal with RL stuff, even if it’s just watching mining lazors zap around for hours as stress relief from reality.

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Amen for that post

The big groups are feeling it too. Maybe some don’t like to recognize it perhaps because it takes time to “feel guilty” (a false sense of guilt fed by those who claim it was Null who asked for it) for being part of such thing.

Which is not wrong at all, specially considering that EVE’s environment allowed and encouraged it through multiple “releases” back when you used to be a valuable customer.
It makes me think about the effects of “chaos era” and the introduction of BO -VS- introducing forced mechanics to break big groups apart. (given that CCP gets carried by the ‘big groups are bad’ idea)

IDK, it would have been more chaotic, perhaps. But whatever the outcome, I doubt it would have chased so many out of the game as we see today. Maybe it would have been fun, what do you kno…
And that’s the point: What did the game need of a “chaos era”?
It’s just another example of things that could have been done, which surely would have been more chaotic but that take too much work to achieve.

Nope, your money is no good here, carry on.

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But for some, Eve Blackout is the *Chaos and Real Life is the *Order…

Either way, there is no excuse to dispose of one over the other. In fact, I think one is way, way more important but both should coexist in a healthy environment.

Opinions vary and to me, facts show which one is wrongfully receiving the privilege of a completely undeserved and totally unnecessary higher ground. Which BTW will also be underappreciated and soon discarded.

Games, even Eve, are meant to be fun - Reduce the “fun” factor you will lose players.

CCP is right now pushing the boundaries to see how far they can push players before - Not fun anymore I’m done.,.

IMO they are very very close.,.

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Based on total activity, you are wrong. Sure, some might have come back, but far more have left.

You have some valid points of view and I do agree.

Opinions are always relative I’m sure lots of people have been affected by the cascade of changes over the years which have made many of us leave. Much of my game has been solo as I thrive on a game being extremely difficult so for me and a handful of others the recent changes have made the game more of a thrill.

The playerbase of Eve does consist of some very cool people and there is a player base that will support Eve to the very end. I just hope it will be enough to keep Eve running another 16 years.

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I would argue they have pushed past any boundaries and we can see the results in the stats. If Hilmar, @CCP_Falcon and co don’t realize that, then they are delusional and need to get their eyes out of their respective asses

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There is a difference between a breeze that exposes shaved legs and a gust that lifts the skirt so you see all the…

Oh my God, NOO!

The stats, those we’re given and are so thankful to receive, the bone and blood of all subsequent speculation, mean nothing. Those are shaved, sheer textured, nourished…

The other stats, those they have access to and can visit pretty much in real time, those are… well, let’s just say it’s not friday, and there are no visits expected.

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Or they fully realize the hugely inflated PCU was mostly bots, afk cloakers and semi-afk crabbers taking advantage of almost complete safety and destroying the entire economy in the process.

Stay the course CCP and add more pressure–in the end Eve will be a much stronger game for your efforts.

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Yes of course the game will be much stronger and there will be so much more activity, when all that is left is Blocs in Sov Nul.
If you looked at the economy - It had started to “fix” itself months before CCP went on this latest “trial by error” development trend - Now all it is doing is forcing smaller groups out of Sov, seeing larger groups having to put on more recruiters to deal with the rush and many people just not logging in until there is some sort of method seen to what CCP is doing.

Rather than creating “chaos” as CCP would like to call it, they are pushing players to rethink if and why they want to continue playing - They still don’t have a clue how to keep new players for more than a week, they still aren’t doing anything to address stagnancy in nul, they aren’t showing players they know what they are doing, they can’t even respond in a thread (when they do bother) with anything that even pretends to be reasonable.,.
I don’t blame Devs, the fault behind all of this lies directly at the feet of Hilmar and if he isn’t worried about his future at CCP, he should be.,.

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Well said, a vibrant engaged community will be better in the long run than heaps of bots and afk players even if there is a contraction of the player population. I know I didn’t start playing so I could run a bot farm, or watch Netflix in another window.

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The engaged community is the one being most affected.
Bots are still being removed manually. It’s every MMO’s pest control. This is a recurrent statistic within the numbers, nothing to do with “chaos”. It didn’t work or was intended to get rid of bots.
The “hugely” bot infestation is a conjecture, a speculation. The bots numbers have been clearly established and have a total of (insert the number found on your research here). Fact check it yourself.
It is not possible to relate chaos and bots without considering manual bot removal as constant already within the provided numbers, not as a temporary occurrence and you cannot sum twice, know your statistics.

Chaos will get to you too. Your gaming will eventually suck if not already.

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You have no real facts about the assumption of the so called inflated PCU was mostly bots afk cloackers and semi afk crabbers taking advantage of almost 'complete safety" .if u wrere afk in nul sec ither you lost your ship or lost your excavator drones.Now lets take a look at you:

  1. You dont leave in nul sec
    2)You only fight targets that have 0 chance to fight back
    3)You got 8 solo kills in your z killboard combining with the 2) you kinda suck at pvp
    everything above is based on real facts about you using your zkillboard.
    BO :what is a fact, the meta changed to cloacky null lokis and stukas fleet.There is 0 counter to cloackys 0 counter to see if you have any chance to take the fight , rating in sub cap means you are died and you cant really make any isk unless you roqual mining or do something else beside rating in 00 .without any income you eventually end up broke without any means to buy a ship to pvp.Pvp activity in 00 went rly down for the defenders cause no cloacky want to fight a pvp ship unless its 100+ so its gonna be alpha .People that have boats gonna just use the next one when they get banned, i would do that.But this game is unplayable now for people in null sec , from isk maintenance to pvp ,and i am a person that actually pvp and take the hard fights .Am sure CCP will be happy with eve online when people like me leave and they are stacked with people like you.So plz keep killing miners with an sb , say how great you are with your friends and how u melted that covetor and don t post here you are rly not helping the argument black out is so great because it come from your mouth.*Hint post with an alt or something it will definitely have more credit than you :thinking:
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