Putting aside the economic effects of the blackout. I want to know if this chaos era will also change how the cloaking device works. We have recently seen a change in the cyno. It was identified as a tool far more powerful than it was intended. Is the cloaking device not on similar grounds? It is a powerful tool that can be activated and remain that way. It has no fuel source of any kind. It has no capacitor requirement, which makes no sense, since it should consume some power. The one thing that used to balance the cloak was local, but with it now gone, maybe it is would be fun to hunt the hunters. The safety of local was taken away, it added one more thing to think about. We should do the same thing to those who cloak and camp. Iâd love a mechanic other than bait to force out those who are cloaked up warm and safe. Its up to you CCP to come up with a solution. If your goal is to mix this up, then surely you can try this for a month and see what happens. Any response?
Theyâre not reading this thread. They werenât reading the first one, either. Not saying youâre wrong, just that theyâre not reading.
Sad but most likely trueâŚ
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Bots are already in the numbers.
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Adding them twice is stupid.
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The bots removal is not an isolate event on the time line.
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Bots are always manually removed as part of the maintenance schedule of every single game.
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There is no relevant relation between bots and the concurrency decrease rate.
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The numbers you attempt to locate in the July - today time frame are 6 month period totals.
In that case, taking into account an average of 2600/mo (2.6k X 6 = 15000), given that it truly is 15000 bots, the total ban from July to end Augustus will be: 3750
Now, in reality, the bots ban for those 6 months have been 4500. So, (4500 / 6) X 1.5 = 1125 accounts removed for botting related activities in a period of 45 days (since BO began to the period cut and point of data extraction)
- At current rate, itâs equivalent of the loss of 3 days in concurrency.
- The game is MISSING A MINIMUM OF 600 ACCOUNTS ACTIVE DAILY with AN AVERAGE OF 900 since BO.
- The concurrency is losing too much. Imagine a bulletâs ballistic graph with high wind force acting against. It is looking THAT BAD.
IN THE REAL WORLD:
If the down rate is not REVERSED, the game has 6 months left. Not of existence but in FEASIBILITY.
If the down rate is not STOPPED, the game has 4 months left. Again, not of existence but in feasibility.
WITHIN THE GAME:
The down rate CANNOT BE CALCULATED because there is a REGIONAL IMBALANCE it would take a lot more data and work to calculate.
The effects of the regional imbalance is GAINING MORE MOMENTUM within the game.
This is AFFECTING PLAYABILITY simply because in order to play, you have TO INTERACT and the REGIONAL IMBALANCE is choking the chances for that interaction.
And donât forget there was a bunch of accounts that ARE STILL IN GAME BECAUSE OF THE SKILLS PROMOTIONS and all other giveaways TO PUSH NUMBERS IN THE SUMMER.
Quit pushing that argument.
The 600 average, before anyone start with the Cro-magnon math:
IS THE EFFING NUMBER WITHOUT THE NEWBORNS!!!
GET THAT, BIATCH!
(because, like the bot ban, newcomers are already in the numbers as a permanent average)
In perspective, you must consider the decline rate to be so big, that itâs NEGATING THE INFLUX OF NEWBORNS!!
The only issue with cloaks is the afk garbage and thats also the main reason for the existence of cap umbrellas.
Return local and give Cloaks a 10min cycle outside of w-space.
Messing with it to fix the idiocy that is blackout will only ruin the game for Wormholers and another mass exodus is the last thing we need on top of the current one.
Fixing the cloak because of the BO would be to fall in the same trend of ban-aid patching that got us into this.
Iâm hoping that now that cynos got put on the table, that maybe cloaks are on their crosshairs. Iâm sure they understand the issues that would arise from the changes. They are too obvious to miss. They knew cloaked ships would take over. I doubt they will bring back local. But Iâm curious to see how they will take the blade to the cloak mechanic. A few corp mates have told me, that certain CCPs come out and said they would not change how the cloak worked. If true, why are they so attached to it? The changes to local have only exposed how broken the cloak really is.
Your optimism is adorable.
No, cloaks are perfect just as they are. Really one of the most unique and fun mechaniks to interact with - exept if some douchebag only uses it to waste my time 23/7.
Cloaks are the most defining aspect of WH live and if i see a person in local and know he is actively hunting i also know itâs worth my time baiting so fair enough.
Blackout is whats stupid about cloaks right now. People didnât move to WH space in masses before for that exact reason.
lolâŚwhich is exactly what most of them doâŚor at least did before BO. But now that they canât bring in entire super fleetsâmuch less of a problem overall.
Cloak isnât perfect. I actually enjoy not having local. If they changed it to a delayed local, I would be ok with that. Say after 5 minutes in NULL only, not WHS, the local system communications network would have found out who you are, because it is relaying your clone to your death clone facility.
I say if you are actively hunting, then you can press cloak again once the timer goes off. If people canât AFK mine, then you shouldnât be allowed to AFK hunt. Simple as that.
All these CCPshould things will never happen. They donât have the resources to essentially rebuild a 20 year old game. This whole âchaos eraâ nonsense was dumb and sparked a real death spiral. Ignore the PCU if you want but it is dropping every day. Less people, less content. Less content, more boredom. More boredom, less people. Death spiral.
The PCU has been dropping for years.
Not like this:
See that peak right at 37k? Thatâs May. Today maxxed out at 20k. 17k in 4 months. If the next 4 months continue at this rate, thatâs 3k people online.
Not like it has in past 3 months. If you look at the âyearsâ view, âchaos eraâ looks like a crater forming not a continuation of a years long slide.
Thanks for the chart. Exactly it. This game is tanking hard.
You could say that about several moments in eve history. Iâm sorta curious about the plex/paid accounts in that graph. Are those leaving plex or paid?
Like are people down sizing the number of accounts they have active, or are they leaving the game entirely.
From what people have been saying, a fair number of both. But if people arenât PLEXing accounts, thatâs still PLEX CCP arenât selling, as demand dropsâboth for the account, and the SKINs that account would use (and yes, people do put SKINs on their Rorqs and other ships on their secondary/PLEXâd accounts).
Even if itâs just alphas, part of the reason for the entire alpha state to exist is so thereâs people out in space for other players to interact with, either people to shoot, people to get shot by, people to sell to, etc etc. EVEâs in-game economy requires a critical mass of players to be active and generating minerals, meta modules, PI, etc. Once that lineâs crossed, itâs a cascade effect through the economy, just like it would be for a corp or alliance that loses critical mass.
And if that happens, everything goes south fast.
Thatâs the same thing as both are sources of income for CCP. I think you meant the convey âare these leavers Alpha or Omega accounts?â
I think it is a case of both. I know a lot who have downsized but eventually that will probably lead to them finishing with the game as they interact less with it.