I’m pretty sure you will beat all nullseccers on amount of salt produced in few weeks. You look like capable salt producer!
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That’s all we need in sov nul - large bloc groups roaming every region looking for some rare material that is in limited supply. As if small/er groups don’t have it hard enough already, you want them to compete directly with the blobs in space they already struggle to hold.
So if XXX Bloc group has massive stockpiles of this new resource gathered by roaming any region they choose - How is turning down spawn rates going to help - They just go steamroll where ever the resources are and take them.
Nul does not need more “pointless grind” that will affect small/er groups and benefit the Blocs.
It won’t feel tedious for the groups who can do it with impunity, it won’t be any different for them than moving thousands of Supers across New Eden in relative safety.
Which groups can achieve this and what about those who can’t?
- This thread for the most part is about the future of Sov space - “Local Comms Blackout” was just an unfortunate title for the topic.
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I understand they need data to make intelligent decisions for the future of the game. I just haven’t seen them making intelligent decisions about the future of the game for quite some time now…
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A lot of which is because they are trying to tiptoe around actually fixing the things that need to be fixed because doing so will remove a lot of the pressure towards their most popular SP injection targets. They want that windfall cash from people instantly injecting into supers and titans.
The problem is they are just coming across as more and more clueless and ineffectual the harder they try avoiding tipping over the apple cart by avoiding the actual problem sources. It feel a helluva lot more like accounting is making decisions than actual game designers.
A far cry from when the Dev’s used to fly with us and see the problems first hand.
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No matter the real reason behind bringing local back, I would like to see CCP follow up with a final in-game story. If I remember correctly, the Drifters (?) took out the beacons. Would be fun to see how local was restored and possibly a small video… 
Although I have my suspicion as to why it was brought back – it’s not really that fun to talk business. I was hoping for a continuation to the story…
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Put corporation and alliance adverts in https://forums.eveonline.com/c/corporations-alliances/recruitment-center .
When the story itself doesn’t make sense…
Blackout will not come back. It did not address anything wrong with the game.
Ppl just subscribed and echoed to void arguments like:
- Immediate intel, which has been in the game since Pleistocene.
- It was a bot war, A BOT WAR! …
- Too much too easy, without considering upgrades, for example and SOV grind, btw.
So, if we put these arguments against the complexity required to implement such environmental but at the same time, selective and fine-tuned feature, my conclusion, based on the workload demonstrated by CCP in recent… well not so recent anymore… years, is:
It is not going to happen.
That’s why I have to insist for everyone to forget about local and look somewhere else and under different perspective for a “solution” to improve Null in such way, that the game has something to offer better than donutbrellas, HS, FW, WH, etc… because apparently, according to threeners (troll - whiner hybrids) everything is pretty much phukd up and / or needs attention nao!
Of course, we would debate this for longer than what’s left of EVE under current decline rate, or act now with other solutions which include:
Fix the damn thing ourselves.
And it is as much of fantasy as would be to expect CCP’s reaction or action encoding any proposal.
But it will happen and it better happens now.
We must figure out a list of the things that are wrong and declare them forbidden, enforcing them ourselves.
When I say it will happen it is because by the moment we as costumers decide to act, it will be after a headline indicating the end of EVE’s financial sustainability.
If for example, donutbrellas are so terrible and killing the game, well… there are rumors already about dismembering some krakens out there.
If Supercapitals are a thing, mark them as forbidden under penalty of absolute obliteration, a temporary ban.
When SOV grinding engulfs an entity’s fun-ability, mark it under a curfew, resort to other ways to bait content, temporarily until CCP solves it.
If you have issues with comms … ducktape the monitor’s corner stripe.
It may sound weird and impossible but mark my words… it will happen that one day pilots will decide what not to do and avoid it procuring to save EVE when it will be too little, too late.
Or we can continue threening about stupid things that have been discussed endlessly with no measurable effect.
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One of the problems with the blackout was that after the comfort and safety of local was removed, reliance on it for intel by miners/krabbers it afforded a disproportionate advantage to the hunter.
The core of this problem stems from a change that was made many years ago - The introduction of Green Anomalies - it had consequences outside of making life easier for the player.
If along side the blackout all the green anomalies had turned to red signatures then the balance would lean back towards the combat site runner or ore miner - If ore belts needed to be scanned down the cry of “red in local” would have been replaced with “probes on scan”.
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I think it just switched off the disproportionate advantage the miners/krabbers had/have, there should be no free intel in what is the most lawless area of space in eve online over the years though it has become the safest place to make ISK.
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This is true.
But then, also the information regarding upgrades and indexes should disappear too, making it so resemblant to WH space that…
well, better move to WH if such scenario is so alluring.
There is nothing wrong about it and yes, the BO could have been different in many ways and I understand and see that many ppl wish to make BO fit by force but it is complicated when as feature, it was a simple copy/paste from existing instances within EVE.
In other words, another reason why BO will not come back: Making it work by altering everything related to the logical consequences of a “true” Blackout, would have turned it into a WH-ish that already exists.
The first mistake of BO, was to make WH space a test case for Null.
If you ask me, never thought of any similarity between them, as they fit to different gamestyles.
If anything, one could argue that the so called “comfort & safety” of Null gave WH peeps more than ample vessel to gank around at will, with pretty zero counter as their gate was widely open specifically for such function. Think of it as a shark jumping out the water but fully functional on the ground being chased by a monkey back to the sea… have you seen how monkeys behave under water? Exactly!
Yeah, nobody considers that, right? well, there it is. WH is also an-other higher ground against Null “comfort & safety”.
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If you have sov - maybe an access list to allow the reds to be green for members
Edit - Don’t compare wormholes with null - Null cannot ever be made the “same” as a wormhole.
You do not remember correctly.
Drifter activity made refueling the FTL communications systems more hazardous than CONCORD logistics was willing to risk more often than absolutely necessary. So CONCORD throttled QE He-4 usage to critical functions, like cloning and stargate operations. Once the Drifter attacks settled back down, CONCORD (over the last two months, using funds made available by the tax increases) has ramped up more local production as well as activating previously-existing caches that were basically set aside and taken off of ‘active’ use. This shortens the supply chains, and they’re willing to risk stepping up activity again. So, they’ve stopped rationing QE He-4 use in null.
Hehe… yap
Greening was yet an-other higher ground against Null dwellers… can you imagine the whine chorus if they were turned to signatures?
Oh da humanatee!
Tringo!
But as more one tries to make BO fit, all proposed tweaks would make Null more like WH space , so close that, why bother?
I don’t think there is anything wrong with diagnosing BO and debating it’s chances of revival. I just think it will not happen, there is WH space still waiting for those who drool for BO.
Sure it can. Remove local, remove asset safety, blow up all the gates, make cynos not work, make jump clones and medical clones not work, remove all NPC space, change anoms to a respawn rate of X/day/Constellation, remove bounties and replace them with commodities that have to be hauled out… probably one or two more things, but sure, it could be done. >.>
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I wish they would change them back to reds in wormhole space.
- Hunting was more fun then, now its pop thru a wormhole, d-scan the guy ratting/mining a green & warp.