It will reduce it, of course. We can tell that much just by looking at the monthly nullsec NPC kills (~200M in April and May, 176M in June, 98M in July).
How does that compare to same time last year?
Far more relevant.,.
200-212 million or so every month april-july in 2018. You know you can just look these up on dotlan, right?
It wasnât meant as a âgo look it upâ - More of a which is more relevant
Wait lets do the math on this.
Goons troll null and abuse the lesser powers.
Goons troll high sec with high-sec gank retards
Goons troll low with drakuvac rejects
How are null entities not at play here?
Imo, Disband goons and ban its senior leadership, remove all of goons assets and the assets of the corps. Set an example to all of eve for the rest of its history how people cannot go around abusing others, how there is justice for evil action in this game. put it in a blog.
Do that and i promise the return of people.
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No, actually thats not true.
They do not remove people for a few reasons, of them the greatest is that the number on that list simply makes them feel powerful to other onlookers.
As a developer we know that the average rate of logins for a member in a corp in a given week is around 32%. Eve however has horrid retention rates, which massively effect this value (decreasing it)
Only 30-40% of goons is active (at best case).
When you make 8 trillion a month you can injector spam people to titan. It only takes 50 or so (if i recall right).
Once your in titan you can do a 500m/hr farm rate with aoe dd, however, im not sure how they get another 166m an hour out of this but iâd be willing to bet if they are in fact farming 665m(ish)/hr, they are doing something with titans.
In the end you are counting every goon member to be active, and weâve seen the cap of their alliance fleets at around 1k in the last few years. They definately do not have anywhere near half activity rate, much less more. This is where your equation is failing.
Okay? So if 30% of them are active, thatâs about 10,000.
I used less than 4%, myself, when I used the value of 1000 ratters, but letâs go with your generous 30%.
So weâve gone from it taking 1,000 people VNI ratting for 4 hours a day, to 10,000 people VNI ratting for .4 hours a day.
Sounds pretty â â â â â â â doable to me.
Letâs go back to what you actually said, though:
Iâm reasonably certain ânone topâ was supposed to be ânon-stopâ, yes?
So, letâs break this down into its component parts:
-30% of goons required
-Generating 666M/hr
-Non-stop for the entire month
This is what you said.
30% of goons is about 10,000.
10,000 people generating 666m/hr generate 6.66 trillion isk per hour. If there were only 100 characters generating that income, weâre right back to⌠4 hours per day to reach 8 trillion.
Letâs take a moment to appreciate the yawning chasm of difference between â30% of them non-stop for the entire monthâ vs. â100 characters for 4 hours a dayâ.
While weâre in an appreciating kind of mood, letâs take a moment to admire how youâve apparently done âhard calculationsâ but are also incapable of responding to âOkay, letâs see your calculations,â with anything other than vague insinuations and âTrust me Iâm a dev I know things.â
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Can see how well this BO crap is working ppl are spending more time on here talking crap allday then playing the game! just stop this crap now before you kill this game off
I also said
Btw, there is not 10,000 goons active. T heir peak times do not even hit 10k.
Just an fyi on how this works, the game is broken into 4 sections / Timezones. No where is there 10k people online. you can open up the chart in goon space and look at the online peak hours and see there is no where near even 1000 of them.
In fact in the last 3 years the only time iv seen them at those levels is when they are in ops. Which means goons is likely a alt spam alliance, or is fitting their stigma of playing other games until a redit post goâs out.
Side note on this pointâŚ
Only noobs rat in vni. Goons do not have noob skill points. They super spam, its been that way since i dunno 5-6 years ago (probably longer).
Vniâs dont make anywhere near 666m /hr, The closest thing that i know of is a titan with aoe dd trick, which caps at around 500m an hour.
Youâre the one who said â30% of goonsâ.
Perhaps you would like to revise the stupid thing you said earlier.
I highlighted the part where you need to learn to read.
The short and sweet of it is that, no, no significant portion of goons needs to rat non-stop for the entire month at 666m/hr to generate their income. The thing you said is fundamentally, provably moronic.
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No, I said
Now here in there did i say â30% of goons are activeâ I made the point, The metrics in the industry say they should be around 32% activity rate in the average game. Which is why i said
Only 30-40% of goons is active (at best case)
read bold areaâs since you have downs
This is you, saying literally that, right there. If you click the little arrow, it will take you right back to the idiot thing you said, exactly where and when you said it.
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Every single goon sits there and bots, non top. They even have titans that bot defensive measures dding key gates so people cannot enter to find out their secrets.
Attention all people pay attention to this because mittens alt 100023 is here trying to hide the truth that goons are full of bots
anyone doubting that goons are botting simply get in a shuttle (remove implants) And flow down to goons space. YOu will be greeted with the bot defense team of 3 titans (2 cal/1 amarr) aoe dding the gate when you are 1 jump out.
Let me walk you through this with very small words and short, clipped sentences.
Weâre looking at the math to reach 8 trillion isk in 1 month.
Youâre asserting 666 million per hour.
First of all, letâs assume youâre correct about that. Sure, why not! You certainly seem to think you know what youâre talking about, letâs take your word for it.
That means, to reach 8 trillion ISK in 1 month will require 12,000 man-hours of ratting.
Weâll use 720 hours in a month.
This would require only 17 people ratting ânon-stop for the entire monthâ to eclipse 8 trillion isk.
Thatâs basic â â â â â â â arithmetic.
You have also asserted, just now, that:
Which brings us to the obvious question:
If theyâre all botting at 666m/hr, why is Delveâs bounty generation only 8 trillion? 17 people had that covered, but you just told us every single goon bots non-stop?
Goons are quite red to me ingame. The fact that theyâre my internet spaceship enemies doesnât make your statements any less provably ridiculous.
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The debate isnât who likes FPS games or not, the debate is why is so many players resolve so weak? I insult or belittle because you put the game that I love in jeopardy with your silly, lazy and emotional decision to quit just because local chat is delayed.
I insult the quitters here because their game is conditional on it being easy which is not in line with the dark and unforgiving game Eve Online was supposed to be. Youâre playing a sci-fi space simulator and youâre surprised a mysterious alien race has come and disrupted it, where is your imagination and sense of adventure?
Iâm glad CCP has HTFU and just done what they want. God!! some of you players are simply impossible to please.
If people arenât enjoying something that exists purely as a recreational activity, they should absolutely go do something else. Suggesting that people should have âresolveâ to continue an entertainment activity that isnât entertaining them is absurd.
While I certainly think the blackout histrionics are more than a little overwrought, that has more to do with the bizarre number of people who spend a huge amount of time in utter apoplexy about a hobby they clearly hate instead of just⌠doing something else if they dislike it so much.
You should also be keenly aware of just how little anyone else owes you. Itâs not their responsibility to play a game they donât enjoy just so your game isnât jeopardized. Who the â â â â are you to them? What are they supposed to think?
âIâm really not having any fun with this butâŚgosh, I donât know⌠I donât want to let Aaron down so I guess Iâll keep spending my free time on this thing I donât enjoy. It just wouldnât do to upset Aaron. Heâs so important.â
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Drifters have attacked in fast powerful ships and destroyed lots of isk, many players scrambled to mobilize and fight and took more losses, Drifters then attacked communication relays and made it difficult to obtain materialsâŚ
Iâm on the edge of my â â â â â â â seat as I am very exited by all of this, I stopped ratting in my expensive ship and chose a less expensive one to continue ratting. I actually enjoy travelling in null more since the blackout,
That wasnât my point and you know it.
This is a forum so I will use it to bring fourth my personal opinion. I am entitled to have an opinion about the future of Eve and be annoyed if I donât like where it is leading just as you do, none of you have to consider my feelings.
LOL, switching off local is all it took to reveal how many of you need your hand held while gaming.
Ah. I see.
So, youâre entitled to insult and belittle people for not spending their time on things you enjoy, but they do not.
Weâre not entitled to point out that youâre ridiculous for doing so.
Thatâs a completely reasonable set of expectations that any well-adjusted adult would hold, I suppose. 
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You were all happy to do that when local was immediate mode, LOL, switching off local is all it took to reveal how many of you need your hand held while gaming.
How about some warm milk and cookies, and a story before bed?
or how about a salt sandwich to replenish the salt you lost from all that crying?
LOLOLOL, this is epic and hilarious youâre all here crying and CCP isnât budging on their decision HAHA.
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