Na, What will burn is your trash alliance, one change at a time. I will prove to ccp how trash you are, promptly before the changes they make to remove you and your mentality from this game for good.
The reason this game is in its state is because of you goonscum.
⌠holy crap, okay you need to actually step back and stop posting for a while. Youâre going to blow a fuse or a vein. Take it from someone who genuinely loathes the organization in question for a whole plethora of reasons: Youâre massively overdoing it.
Edit: I think Iâm bowing out for tonight. This went worse than Spodbrain rather quickly.
Iâll apologize to the rest of the readers for my part in setting it up for this level of wank.
Talking about others like this just because you disapprove of their playstyle shows quite nicely who the scumbag is and iâd go as far as claiming that griefers like you made Delve possible in the first place because thats the easyest way of enjoying the game without having to deal with your kind 
Go for it, Binky. My mentality is âfollow the dataâ. Yours clearly ainât.
Nope! It just changes who was in charge. Itâs kinda like saying âOh my god, youâre the guys who bombed Pearl Harbor, we can never ever ever believe the Japanese have changed!â
Success as a null-bloc in EVE is a result of adapting to the current mechanics. Often, that means doing things you donât think are good for the game, but if you donât do it, youâre not going to be successful. So you tell CCP that their changes are bad. You tell them why theyâre bad. You tell them what youâll do to get the maximum benefit from those changes.
And then, when they ignore your warnings, you do it. You keep telling them âyou need to fix supersâ, âyou need to fix sovâ âyou need to fix rorqualsâ. When you can, you give them suggestions for how. But as long as they put the broken mechanics in where your enemies can use them, youâre a fool if you donât use them.
You want to throw around words like âscumâ, thatâs great, feel free. Iâm not gonna go trying to engage you on your straw-man argument about people being âvileâ and âscumâ when that doesnât mean a single goddamned thing about whether or not someone is botting.
⌠you literally accused me of considering null-blocs the âroot of all evilâ, and now you want to use the response to that while trying to pretend it was about botting? This is why I consider you dishonest. You know very well that had nothing to do with the botting. This is why thereâs no point discussing with you. You donât do it honestly. You canât even pretend that was an argument made in good faith, when you changed the subject to my view on null-blocs.
Christâs sake, Arrendis. I keep falling for it, and then this kind of crap comes along.
Allright, sure. Your crap donât stink, somehow. The only ones out there that donât.
I did accuse you of considering null-blocs the root of all evil. And if you want to dispute my claim, Iâll be happy to talk about that with you. But you know, if your response is âyouâre all vile scumâ, youâre not exactly proving me wrong. Just like youâre not proving me wrong when I say that youâre not going to let pesky things like facts get in the way of your preconceived narrative.
Because I didnât change the subject to your view on null-blocs. I used your view on null-blocs as an example of your unwillingness to consider the possibility that you might be wrong. You want to dispute that example, youâve got to demonstrate that youâre willing to consider that you might be wrong. Youâre not. You havenât even tried to say itâs possible. You havenât even tried to claim that you might consider that possibility.
You keep trying to claim that Iâm somehow saying weâre better than everyone else. But hereâs the only thing Iâve said on that specific issue:
Iâm not saying our crap donât stink. Iâm just saying youâre full of your own.
Goons break the game, use every cheap trick they can because they have the numbers that have been driven by past game mechanic changes. Thatâs CCPâs fault, not Goons. I count on them for this even when I take oh so many nerfs because of them. Someone has to find the edge.
Care to show your work on that?
Iâm looking at the April MER, which shows 8 trillion in bounty prizes for Delve.
If they were VNI ratting (RIP) at 60 million per hour, it would take 133,333 man-hours in a month to rack up 8 trillion in bounties.
Sounds like a lot, but CONDI alone has 32,000 characters and while Iâm sure the distribution isnât even, if we assume only 1000 ratters, thatâs 4 hours a day of ratting per character.
Itâs more than 1000 ratters, and theyâre not doing it in VNIs.
Note that 10,000 of them (or, roughly 30%) accumulating 666m/hour for one â â â â â â â hour would yield 6.66 trillion isk in bounties.
Or, put another way: 8 trillion in ratting bounties over 32,000 characters in CONDI is⌠only 250 million in bounties per character in a month.
Part Deux ehâŚtime for musical interlude
The politics of null alone are fun to read. so much love and foreplay! please go on with a little more roleplay please.
July MER is the one we need to see.
No-one will be scratching their heads saying HOW or WHY?
It is obvious - CCP got it wrong - AGAIN
Got⌠what wrong, exactly, and what does it have to do with the claim that it would take 30% of goons earning 666 mil per hour 'round the clock to generate their income?
June MER is somewhat irrelevant to the game right now.
Read my post, see if you can respond WITHOUT your own agenda taking over
Itâll really be August. Julyâs always the slowest month, and the Drifter activity in the first week also skewed the numbers. The MER wonât show actionable data until weâve gotten a full month of it under the new conditions. And if CCP keeps changing things every week, the way Hilmar promised⌠even that might not be a useful tool. Weâll see.
Iâd really like to see the ship loss data with the Blackout in place compared to before the Blackout. Should be interesting to see which regions have become more and less active PvP wise.
The less active regions would be good to run into and get the good stuff.
ok⌠blackout⌠reinforces the null blocks and super umbrellas. otherwise, it doesnât really affect the big blocs much. it does affect the smaller alliances. really not helping with null stagnation. give us reasons to want to do the weeks and weeks of sovwanding and fights that are good for the game.
actuaklly, iâve seen what happens when discord exceeds 60k replies. things start breaking.
I was more curious due to Hilmars comments about the increased number of players online for July.
Do those number mean anything as far as the generally worst MER of the year goes.
If the blackout continues for another month yes August will give a better idea of how it has affected the MER but iâd still like to compare this July to previous years.
Unfortunately if they do change things every week it will make pulling useful stats for any changes more difficultâŚ
Okay, what does the June MER have to do with anything, either, regarding the claim that. âit will take 30% of [goons] doing 666m/hr none top the entire month for their alliances to generate the isk income they make.â
Absolutely nothing to do with this thread.,.
Iâm interested to see what affect the blackout has on isk generation.
Not whether Goons make more isk than everyone else (which we all know they do)
Its the last full MER before blackout. Use for comparisons etc