Local is Trash

Well you are using a slow lumbering ship such as a TC3 and are relying on there being no local. That you are using WH hunting techniques is why you fail in nullsec.

To get a kill you need people in small fast ceptors to hold people, we used to send in people to anomalies with the fleet behind, obviously you are not up to that.

Get better and bring friends.

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Might also be good to remember Eveā€™s age. It stems from a time where chatboxes in games were a novelty. Eve started out more like an old MUD and less of an MMO as they are understood today. I remember some article where CCP stated that local was never intended as an intel tool, but in a sandbox developer intent is simply less important then what the players make of the mechanics.

Itā€™s not just that, it is also that the PVE player is most exposed whilst ratting and the attacker has sole initiative.

The attacker sees the ratting ship on scan whilst not even on grid and gets to choose whether to take the fight or not. So the attacker will always make sure he can win by either bringing allies or making sure his ship beats the ratters.

Even when a ratter gets approached by an inferior ship it should still be assumed that it is bait/tackle and more enemies are on the way.

This is one of the reasons removing local would be a good thing, maybe even modifying d-scan. Hiding the true capabilities of defenders as much as attackers.

Thereā€™s no great solution to this but shutting down local is not one.

My god. People who live in null and low who want local are script miners now? The spin keeps getting dumber.

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Well, no. It should. Or the name should change. I am fine with either. But a place where player ships blow up about once a minute is not properly labeled ā€œhigh securityā€. Its a dupe.

If you canā€™t pvp with a local chat open maybe its you that needs to HTFU.

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What I find ironic is players saying they canā€™t find PvP fights when thereā€™s targets actually sitting in Gatecamps all over the place.

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Thereā€™s definitely at least a moderate imbalance in an engagement between a PvP hunter and a PvE prey target in non-high-sec areas of space (regardless of setups involved, etc.) simply due to the element of surprise. Thatā€™s why I never blamed people docking up when a threat comes along (I only make fun of those who have a significant numerical advantage but choose to dock up anyway). That said, the few times I got attacked while running wormhole sites, all but one time I was able to fight off the attackers simply by switching all my firepower to them, because the rats would also switch over to attacking them at some point, and they couldnā€™t handle like 3,000 incoming DPS and had to run. The only time I lost was when I got jumped by a group all at once instead of an advance tackler.

PvE setups being weak against PvP ships isnā€™t totally true, because PvE setups can generally tank much more than PvP setups, at least in small engagements without RR involved. Iā€™ve jumped ratters and had to deaggro and go away simply because I couldnā€™t break their tank quite a few times.

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Yes, running into a gate camp with 3x 1bil t3cs is a great idea!

Thats the content! People docking up as soon as local +1s IS NOT A PROBLEM!

Turn it around, why would those players get into combat ships when you are running around in a cloaky ship that can just hide?

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yeah its really hard to warp to an anomaly and hit f2

I am not up to that task at all

Well you are not, obviously.

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They donā€™t know what Iā€™m in. All they know is a neutral is in their system and they dock up. Iā€™ve seen lowsecā€™rs do it on multiple occasions when Iā€™m just traveling through in a yacht.

its very healthy for the game!

You did not answer the question, why would people come out in combat ships if the person is flying a cloaky and can just hide?

Hard truth time. Not everyone is cut out to be a wormholer. Itā€™s wild in those mind-warping singularities.

Just like not everyone is cut out to be a pirate. :pirate_flag:

AND AND AND!! Donā€™t you go trash talking lowsec. Everything else is just a cheap knockoff of lowsec.

Ive been living in a wormhole for 5 months and thriving. I love it so much I think the rest of eve should be similar in its risk profile. Iā€™m not leaving jspace, I just want to improve kspace.

Lowsec is for trash noobs who canā€™t cut it in wormholes and arenā€™t socially adept or knowledgeable enough to survive in nullsec.

Iā€™m going to find your hole and evict you.

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Right, because the only ships Im referring to are helpless mining frigates.

Its not like people ratting in battleships routinely dock up or anything.