Make ventures only for mining, someone thought i was cyno and tried to kill me

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Please make ventures only for mining, no cynos.

I was mining in low sec recently, and i almost got killed by someone.

After talking to them, turns out they werent after me because i was mining, or for fun.

They thought i was part of another player corp and thought i was using my venture to cyno teleport in a group of black ops ships to come kill them.

Please make another ship just for cynos, and make venture stop being a cyno ship, so people stop killing miners in ventures thinking they are trying to cyno in a black ops fleet to come kill everyone.

please no more cases of killing innocent civilians in ventures thinking they are fighters trying to cyno in their army, when they are actually just trying to mine.

You are in low sec and therefor by default not innocent. Deal with dangerous life like true low sec people.

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They would have killed you anyway!

As Venture you’re agile and warp-core stabbed and should be able to get away before they catch you. And if you do get caught it’s a cheap ship, so easily replacable.

Recon cruisers and heavy interdictors are cyno ships, but those are too expensive to be used for industrial purposes which use cynos far more frequently and to make money.

Risking the loss of an expensive T2 cruiser every time you move your Jump freighter or Rorqual quickly makes transporting goods or your mining ships more expensive than the ISK you could earn.

This is why CCP added industrial cynos, which can only be used by jump drives of these industrial ships and can be equipped on cheap industrial ships like haulers and Ventures.

Getting rid of that cyno on Ventures is going to hurt a lot of people who need to move industrial ships, and more importantly it won’t save your Venture if you’re too slow to warp away.

Just pay more attention next time!

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dude, tell those idiots to gitgud … How exactly would a black ops teleport to industrial cyno ?

They were after you because you were easy target, that’s all to it.

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I am not talking about industrial cynos, i mean the cyno teleports that bring black ops ships in.

I said in my post that they thought i was cyno teleporting black ops ships in to come kill them. Never said anything about industrial cynos or haulers. i said black ops cynos

o well, it’s what it is

Probably they were just lying to ease your vigilance and can kill you more easily next time around as you might think they are not after you once they confirmed you are not a cyno alt. :thinking:

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Blops can teleport to any cyno, including industrial cynos.

Generally they prefer covert cynos though, which last significantly shorter and do not create a system-wide warp beacon.

Black ops ships can jump to regular and industrial cynos too.

That’s why the topic is about the industrial cyno the Venture can fit.

The Venture, unlike the covert Prospect, cannot light a covert cyno.

huh…then i guess my suggestion changes to “make black ops ships only able to teleport to covert cynos”, or something like that…

That would still make the Venture an unconventional threat by allowing a Rorqual to bridge a fleet of combat-fit Pioneers/Procurers/Ventures to it’s industrial cyno.

And it’s also a nerf to the capabilities of blops to surprise a mining fleet with an otherwise inconspicuous Venture. A Prospect is too obvious as potential covert cyno ship.

On top of that it’s a nerf to the capabilities of blops to jump to a character with cyno level 4. Cyno 5 is a steep requirement for covert cynos and industrial cynos are a nice cheap and accessible alternative.

A lot of nerfs to playstyles, and for what?

So that you can fly a Venture and not get killed?

Spoiler: people will kill your Venture anyway. Get good at dodging them!

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cyno killers ain’t spare any of your mining ships either XD lowsec dwellers tend to shoot everything nonblue anyway, given the chance XD Hulk can’t do cynos, go try mining in a lowsec belt with it :laughing:

Its not about your exact ship type, its about a zkill killmail on their board.

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Making a ship less useful is a mighty tall order.

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