You’re the whining about it skippy, not us…the onus is on YOU to prove why your option is right. And if you claim facts to back-up your opinion, you need to actually back those up to…
We’re all waiting…you are the one that can’t use gates, not us.
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You are the one advocating for change, so you need to provide logical, and sound proof on why the change needs to be put in place.
Guessing you can’t back up this claim either.
And you’re wrong on five more counts.
- Nobody collects such data.
- It’s obvious why gatecamping is terrible game design.
- I’ve already explained why.
- No explanation or evidence I provide will ever be enough. Bronson effectively admitted it twice.
- You refuse to back up a single thing you say yet demand proof from others.
@Runa_Yamaguchi Still waiting. Two more strikes.
wait as long as you like as YOU are the one making the whiny little claim, not us…L2P or ■■■■ off.
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CCP does, clearly they find it a non-issue as they have not made it impossible to tank gate guns.
Alleged Certainty fallacy
You only explain how you personally feel on the subject.
And you continue to still not provide evidence in attempts to change anyone’s minds.
You are making the assertion, so you need to provide the strong proof on why it needs to be change, you claim it ruining subscription numbers. I say There no proof of this claim.
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Prove it.
clearly they find it a non-issue as they have not made it impossible to tank gate guns.
If you’d bothered to read the thread, instead of stomping all over it with your wrongness, you’d know I didn’t want to buff gate guns.
You also presume CCP’s actions:
- dictate good game design.
- don’t change over time.
- don’t have other priorities.
You only explain how you personally feel on the subject.
Since you didn’t read the thread, you wouldn’t know.
And you continue to still not provide evidence in attempts to change anyone’s minds.
Since you didn’t read the thread, you wouldn’t know.
You are making the assertion, so you need to provide the strong proof on why it needs to be change
^^ This is an assertion in itself, that I asked you to justify. You seem to be refusing.
@Runa_Yamaguchi Still waiting.
And this is where I suggest everyone to stop responding; allowing to fall to the three month period and auto lock.
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It’s basic debating you learn in grade jr HS…you make the claim you need to defend/prove it. If you don’t understand that then go back to jr HS.
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And this is where I suggest everyone to stop responding; allowing to fall to the three month period and auto lock.
As if this wasn’t your aim all along. 
It’s almost a little surreal to see anyone crying about gatecamping in 2019. I think if I actually got caught in a gatecamp today I’d actually be a little bit chuffed about the nostalgia and novelty of the whole experience. How is this even happening?
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crying about gatecamping
The only people crying in this thread are the four who ganged up on me.
Not unlike gatecamping. Guess they should have brought more people. Or is that you?
You’re a bit late. Two have already run away. 
Since we’re talking logical fallacies, and it’s been used repeatedly in this thread, yours is the oldest one in the book: the ad hominem.
The OP may well be pissy he died at a gatecamp. That doesn’t mean gatecamping is acceptable game design. You pretend his state of mind is somehow connected to the objective reality of gatecamping. It isn’t.
Me? I don’t even play. I might if CCP keep opt-in local for nullsec. But that’s utterly unrelated to the pisspoor game design of gatecamping.
Nor is there a single statement in the thread that contradicts gatecamping being pisspoor game design. There’s a simple reason for that:
It is pisspoor game design.
Ohhh, you’re doing that thing where you repeat the same insipid opinion a bunch of times and hope that people will eventually start mistaking it for a fact, right?
That’s a pretty good one.
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Do you always play the victim card when you lose a debate?
LOL…Zero surprised there.
…but you don’t play so…lol…
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Reductio ad absurdum - why does the game even need to exist ?
Answer that and maybe someone will take seriously your remarks about gatecamping needing to unexist…
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And this, dear forum readers, is the giveaway that the issue is simply butthurt-driven - another one to watch out for is ‘everybody knows that…’.
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Gatecamping is good even from non-gatecamper’s perspective - you can start interaction with campers by forming a proper fleet/gang.
In case you want to just pass through - use scout interceptor, use KB data, use proper BR and DST fits (MWD/cloak).
This problem is non-existant… unless you want emotionally punish the ‘bad guys’.
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Same happened to me recently when I got smartbombed on the outgate in Tama after realizing that I had forgotten to add Tama to my list of excluded systems.
Good times.
Reductio ad absurdum - why does the game even need to exist ?
Why did you state your logical fallacy before stating your hilariously bad counterargument?
As opposed to using local, alliance chat etc.
178 comments and the only stated advantage of gatecamping is this.
@Runa_Yamaguchi Still waiting.
Enjoy waiting as YOU made the claim, not us…you can’t defend it so now you are worming yuor way out…rather funny really…
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In case you’re as stupid as you appear…
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