Marauders Finished Being Nerfed?

So after a year away and playing catch-up with the last round of Marauder nerfs, is FC finally finished with the whiffle bat? Are Marauders finally in a good enough place that they’ll be left the h*ll alone for a while?

There’s nothing earth-shattering that I can’t live without (although the loss of the MJD bonus sucks). I’d really like the +0.5 warp speed they cut back now, though.

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For quite a while now, talking years going on decades, nothing has been safe from the Nerf Bat…

I seriously think their Dev team moto is: ‘Spare the Nerf Bat, spoil the player’…

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It’s becoming tiresome having the functionality nerfed because of a few specific null-use cases.

In addition to the warp speed, I think they should give all Marauders one unmodified command burst.

oh sweet summer child. they will finish with the nerfing when marauders are the second choice, after the corvette.

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That’s not very calming, Mike.

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I am a calm person BUT I make no claims to help calm others.

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I haven’t heard any complaints or use of Marauders in unintended situations like fleets lately so I guess they’ll be fine for a while.

Not sure if the new bastions may push them into problematic levels again but I would guess not.

The only remaining possible ‘problematic’ use of Marauders I could think of is if Pochven multiboxers still use them. I’m not up to date there, what’s the Pochven multibox meta lately?

I’ve seen polarised Kronos used for structure bashing, is that fleety enough.

It’s been a while but I’ve also seen fleets of Vargurs.

Why is Marauders being used in a fleet a bad thing?

I fit up a real nice ranged vargur meant for quick hits and runs. The very NEXT day an update came out putting the seige time from 30s to 1 minute. Pretty much killed the entire idea. Big sad.

But over all the ships are niche. PVE mainly or being superior dps in small fleets.

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I think if you wait 6 months… your Marauder will be nerfed. Again.

Can you imagine if Marauders got an overhaul of the Bastion module? So all the Bastion Module did was allow you to overheat modules forever, as long as its active. It would be a nerf, i think, to their damage among other things, but they would always be superior to T1 Battleships. It will also create some more or less hilarious situations where the player overheats their modules but forgot to activate the bastion module

I think bastions are in a good place to be honest.

I don’t undetstand what the purpose of such an overheat overhaul would be, besides spending needless work breaking what isn’t broken.

If you want to fly ships with near permanent overheated modules and overheat bonuses you could take a look at T3 cruisers.

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Marauders are broken. Just look at the attributes page of the bastion module. Holy spaghetti page batman. Half of it is buffs the other is nerfs. Peak CCP design.

Meanwhile bastion module could just enable unlimited overheat of modules while activated. Easier to understand and more fun to play with.

Peace

Marauders are not in a broken state at the moment, I think for the first time in years they’re good but not overbearingly so.

Yea, that’s done on purpose.

Bastions are pretty easy to understand with clear benefits and drawbacks that enable the role of an incredibly strong gun platform that is hard to kill, but also is stationary and self-reliant. This is what makes Marauders peak solo PvE ships without also letting them be oppressive mainline fleet ships in PvP fleet doctrines with these incredible tank and spank numbers.

You don’t effectively accomplish such a specific role in the game by giving a ship ‘long overheat’ bonuses instead of a Bastion module.

Those same overheat bonuses that buff damage and tank to silly numbers would also be used to make an undefeatable mobile battleship mainline PvP doctrine that pushes all other possible fleet compositions out of the game and massively reduces the viable options fleets can choose from.

CCPs designs may not be perfect, but compared to the level of your ideas they appear absolutely flawless to me. Could you please refrain from sharing opinions on things you do not appear to understand? Or at least show some willingness to understand what you are talking about?

People could think you’re trolling if you just dump opinions without thinking.