Meaningful Content for Casual Player?

[Ghost_O_Mo]

Good to see a young one coming up.

[Free Training] Allow me to help you (or your corp) learn PvP

Intro: Free PvP training As a long time high-sec pvp player, I’ve watched the game grow and change for a long time. My way of creating content has largely died, so I shall try another one. Fighting in highsec is all about controlling engagements. High-sec fighters choose to fight in highsec because we can use the highsec rules to allow us to control the scale and progression of fights. I write this for the players in highsec who feel like they cannot win wars. In this tutorial, I aim to sh…

Read this. It’ll teach you the basics. Then go fly and lose ships, then read again.

Good luck out there,
Mo

[zluq_zabaa]

@Barnabas_Fresante

So what do you think? Does this game hold anything of impact, value and meaning to the person with significantly limited time on their hands? And yes, I know “impact, value and meaning” is highly subjective, but please work with me on this. Thanks!

Perhaps, but chances are that you’ll have to make so many compromises, that you have to lower at least some of your expectations.

Taken that your time limitation is fixed and that you made the (smart) decision to focus on player driven content / PVP, we can start from here.

1 hour is not a long timespan in EVE. You’ll need to avoid any kind of logistics and either stage out of a Tradehub or join a group that offers logistics as a service to its members. You can’t waste half an hour or more to make the roundtrip to a Tradehub because some module is missing or because you need a new ship.

Let’s look at different options for these two things:

1. Staging out of Tradehubs

• you could join public NPSI fleets, if they happen to run during your online time, but there is no guarantee anything will happen within 1 hour
• you could fly Abyssal PVP sites, if you’re willing to compromise on “impact, value and meaning” (i.e. don’t do it)
• you could fly solo or look for a bunch of guys who have similar constraints and go have short term roams into nearby lowsec (potentially other areas, but it needs someone to go and scan for wormholes) - these roams will not have much impact or meaning, because of how fked a number of balance things are in EVE right now, but they still can be fun, especially if you develop some comraderie with your guys (chances are that you spend 20 minutes with fitting and travel, 10 minutes looking for a fight, 1 minute with being caught in a camp or dropped by Supers)

2. Joining a Group (that provides logistics)

• you’d need a group that is large enough to provide continous logistic services, involved enough to have regular fleets and active in your timezone
• if you are okay with reducing yourself to press F1, you’ll probably find some Nullsec groups who can use you - you’ll have to decide for yourself if this holds any meaning or value for you.
• if you are not okay with this, it’s going to be a bit harder to find a group that suits your needs.
• one approach would be to look at regional Zkillboard statitics for the time you’re usually online, identify active groups that fly things you can fly as well and hit them up. be open about your time constraints and tell them what you can and cannot contribute and after a while you might find a match
• sympathy amongst the group and laid back atmosphere will probably be the most important criteria, as you’ll still find a lot of days where nothing is happening or where you can’t find any interesting content within 1 hour, and since you don’t have the time to contribute anything else, you’ll need a group that values fun and comraderie over efficiency

Nevertheless, your impact will be highly limited, which is not even primarily due to your time constraints, just because how EVE works at this point. If you value a laid back group of people, who don’t mind to get mostly dropped by Supers, and if you actually manage to find them in your timezone, you could still have some fun and that may be equivalent to “meaning” in the end.

[Barnabas_Fresante]

Thank you all very much for the wealth of information, especially ROBOCOP and Ghost! That was some good reading! And after reading some of the chat logs involved in mission flipping I will never trust another capsuleer in-game again! Haha.

Anyway, I actually have quite a few follow-up questions to what I read but since they’re all specific to PVP, I’m going to open a new thread in the appropriate sub forum. Hopefully you guys might be willing to check it out and lend some more of your wisdom!

P.S. zluq- you make a good point about time. What I’ve found in the past few nights is that if things are going well and all, I end up sacrificing sleep to get more than an hour in, ha. That will work sometimes, but I need to be careful that EVE doesn’t negatively impact the rest of my life. For that reason I am SO glad that I didn’t know about EVE when I was in college, though EVE might not have existed back then; I forget when it started in the first place. But I would have failed out and I would never have met my wife! There are other nights that I might be able to squeeze in an hour but I’m honestly tired enough from the day that I choose not to because I know it’ll likely be nothing but a frustrating experience as I don’t think EVE is a good game to play when you’re tired. Seeing as mistakes will lead to too many avoidable losses. Too much brainpower required, at least when you’re still learning.

[Ghost_O_Mo]

Feel free to email me or join Numbnuts Pub (ingame chat). I still monitor that chat room when I log in.

I used to train people who came there.

We can talk mechanics until you are sick of hearing about them.

[Solstice_Projekt]

@Black_Pedro

t is $11/month if you subscribe for a year. And $12 if you pay every 6 months.

No, it isn’t. Marketing got you.

Someone who can not afford 15 bucks per month will not be able to pay the cost of a whole year. A year long subscription does not cost 11 bucks per month, it is 12x11 bucks all at once, upfront. The only ones who are able to save money in the long run are those who could afford the 15 bucks anyway, because they can also afford the whole year all at once.