wherein Pol apparently declares he was a Blood Raider all along.
This thread keeps on giving.
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Well, sometimes when you keep spitting, someone spits back.
And here, ladies and gentlemen, was the famous poet Aldrith Shutaq Newelle, with his poignant and minimalistic “History of the Amarr Empire”.
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What Pol referenced was that Ushra’Khans clenched fist is not the only Hand at our dissposal. If you want us to unleash the other one go ahead.
It is a virtuoso when it comes to painting. Although it´s range of colours is limited it will turn your planets into pieces of art.
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Without meaning to approve of or entice the wanton murder of civilians, make no mistake: these things are exactly what will happen if the Empire chooses to escalate the warzone conflict beyond current treaties.
Political realism dictates that when the Amarr escalates, the Minmatar have to re-escalate. The harsher the warzone gets, the more incentive the Republic has for a total war now, as opposed to letting the war of attrition run unchecked and hoping for a return to the status quo of relative peace.
People will die, innocent civilians will die, worlds will burn. And it will be this Sarum decree’s fault.
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I’ve heard this from you before Macsliebh. Your wrath and thirst for genocide are no consequence of Lord Olacar’s statement.
Whatever hand is extended against my people; I and those who stand with me are defenders of the Empire and will meet it not with petty wrath, resentment or hatred. But with resolve.
I expect nothing less…
In the words of Elsebeth Shaninn
“Never again another Long Night”
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Thanks for the honor, but those are not my words. “Never again” and variants are old mottos of various Republic defender outfits, among them Fleet units.
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The last time Houses Sarum and Tash-Murkon were antagonizing over this kind of escalation, CONCORD did step in and try to mediate the situation.
What House Sarum is claiming here is against interstellar law, and I’m hoping CONCORD will act on that.
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Then let them come out and say so.
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I think it’s hasty and premature judgement to declare this as unlawful. It might be in your interpretation. It might not be in others. What counts, though, is not what somebody thinks of this, but what the appropriate institutions within CONCORD decide.
As far as I see it, the situation changed significantly from the time when the contracts where signed that made it unlawful for Amarr to take slaves: Given that the ‘warzones’ are pretty much the creation of a ‘loophole’ that allows limited war between CONCORD signatories, it isn’t so far fetched to assume that they also lead to the possibility of limited slave taking.
Also, in the situation you cited, CONCORD mediated between both Empire forces and Republican stakeholders - let us not forget the context of the situation back then, it was clearly not some unprovoked agression from the Amarrian side.
I’m sure cool heads will prevail in this situation, while hotheaded spewing of accusations will achieve nothing in a best case scenario and at it’s worst will lead to further escalation.
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You say this as your empire escalates tensions.
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Could we ■■■■■■■ not…? Civilians have no stake in this - even less so from the Empire where their rights are slim to nill. This is akin to the Khanid killing slaves in Kahah over something they had zero control over. I understand the hostility, I do, but there is no cause or justification to kill innocent people and use them for your political statement.
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Clearly, the Empire cares not at all for the lives of those in the CEWPA warzones.
The appropriate response from the Ushra’khan would be to, for every Matari civilian ‘reclaimed’ in Floseswin, kill 10 Amarr civilians in Sarum Prime.
It is, after all, House Sarum that wishes to engage in war crimes. Punishing people whose only guilt lies in Sarum being recently given military jurisdiction over their homes is foolish. Punish Sarum.
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Ushra’Khan have been using murdered civilians as political statements for longer than I’ve been a capsuleer. If anything, this is just a return to form for them after a fairly long period of more “moderate” action.
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With respect, they are going to work them to death, breed more and repeat the process. How exactly are we supposed to talk sense to them? I understand where your coming from, it truly is the right thing to do. The problem is the bleeding will continue, they only speak of showing us the light and extracting labor from them.
What other option do we have exactly aside from showing them our own light from the barrel of a gun? Words are meaningless to a fanatic. They willingly blind themselves with their light, in actions like this many are sub human in nature. I truly hope you never see your kin on the chopping block, but understand this is about survival. They know not what they do but they blindly grope in a light that blinds them.
This is a terrible thing that seems like it must be done, there are no other options that will work. I won’t sleep better tonight, but I do know our Republic will not fall.
You don’t do the right thing for the credit or for the respect of your enemies. You do it because it is the right thing to do.
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You are absolutely correct. But this is not about our enemies opinion. This is about deterrence. They are unwilling to listen to reason. Concord won’t do a ******* thing to stop this. Again, what other options are there aside from making this a painful experience for the children of the absentee father. HE is the reason innocents will suffer, much like HE is the reason our kin do everyday under his light. Blame their useless god and the words their kin crafted to justify misdeeds.
If a wound is big enough, it is a wound you can cauterize with fire. Consider this a cauterization of civilized society.
Mass murder of Amarrian civilians in retaliation for the atrocities of their corrupt leaders is not an action that I personally, or Villore Accords, nor I think the Federation itself would endorse. Nomistrav is right, that kind of killing is too much for any civilized nation to contemplate.
However, may I humbly suggest that while the civilian population of Amarrian worlds should be left alive, they should not be left in comfort. Minmatar forces should immediately begin a coordinated campaign to destroy as much planetary infrastructure as possible on any Amarrian world they can capture. Your intent should be to make the Amarr howl in misery. Let the Amarrian nobility, Sarum most of all, hear their cries.
Instead of sending slave ships to Matari worlds, they will be forced to send economic aid by the freighter load to stave off humanitarian disaster. Those freighters will be packed with refugees on their return voyages, who will be no less of a burden wherever else in the Empire they end up. They will spread tales of Matari vengeance throughout the Empire, and the Holders will hear that too.
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I said something to that effect as well, when the Elder Fleet had just ravaged my very own estates - along with the entire planet.
It is weird, how quickly people forget. It is barely a few years in the past, yet people are so ready to ignore the seeds that were sowed.
Let me remind you:
Early on June 10th, YC 110, a Matari fleet entered Yulai and assaulted the CONCORD Bureau Headquarters, eliminating CONCORD’s ability to rapidly deploy across the cluster.
Shortly after, additional Matari fleets invaded the Ammatar Mandate and Amarr Empire, invading worlds, spreading Insorum, freeing slaves, and destroying Amarr and Ammatar military installations.
A third Matari fleet invaded the Sarum Prime system and could be barely halted by the Amarr Navy in what had been dubbed a “brutal stalemate” above Mekhios. Yet, the Matari fleet was able to send ground forces to the planet, bombarding it with Insorum, pillaging, burning down churches that had been standing there for millenia, killing soldiers just like civilans: Farmers, priests and clerics, those of old age down to the youngest died in that brutal assault. The only ones they spared were the ones that looked like slaves to them and those they took with them irrespective of the wishes those people had - and if they put up too much of a resistance, they were killed along everybody else.
When they were stopped, the debris of the fleet rained down on Mekhios for days, if not weeks, bringing the already damaged ecosystem of the planet to the brink of crashing alltogether.
The remaining fleets of the Matari forces retreated immediately and were sheltered by the Republic, where those criminals were almost invariably heralded as heros. One of the results was the erosion of the peace established between the CONCORD signatories and as the visible sign of that the putting in place of the CEWPA war zones.
Back then, when my families very own estates were in shambles, I called for a reasoned reaction. I said that cooler heads will prevail. Because that’s the thruth. Cooler heads will always prevail, if anyone will prevail at all.
Back then, I even acknowleged the military ingenuity and brilliant coordination with which the attack was carried out. It is hard to deny that the action and the amount of planning and preparation that went into it beforehand was monumental.
Yet, back then, I also mused as to whether those that went through with this or supported this action were really prepared to pay the cost that would come with it. Because the cost of doing something like that is never payed in full beforehand and it always comes with a credit to pay off later.
And now I see that many people are unapologetic of what happened back then, if not willfully oblivious to it, yet unwilling to deal with the fallout. Or if they are, they want to deal with the fallout by repeating what brought about the fallout in the first place.
What a travesty.
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