Mining Changes?

So something just popped up on the eve launcher " its called From extraction To Production " seems to be the info or some of it we have been waiting on

  • All Omber, Kernite, and Crokite quantities are doubled in sov anomalies …so where are the needed mins you took from us before CCP . doubling the crap just doubles the crap

Hmm… Four minutes? Less a minute or so for typing the two posts means you read and comprehended that entire blog in three minutes or less. You are some sort of speed reader, aren’t you.

Or did you just skim until you found a thing to bellyache about?

Mr Epeen :sunglasses:

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It actually… looks pretty good tbh

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Worst prophet of all time.

It touched on the things I was hoping it would touch on. I tentatively approve.

Mr Epeen :sunglasses:

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Hours? Uh ok. I wait like 20 mins max LOL. And if I don’t see active probes, I just scan and go on my way. Lets not front like there is a billion asteros out there at every site waiting to unleash hell.

So uh, you got any proof that people are being there cloaked for hours in a random data site in low on the off chance that someone will stumble by?

Cause frankly I’ve ran 100s of sites in low and thats never happened. The only time it remotely happens is in WHs and they aren’t AFK LOL.

Please learn to EVE kthx.

Sigh. Why we lying again bro?

Yes, as their purpose is also combat. I’m all for re-purposing the Orca as a battle barge and removing all mining bonuses :smiley:

Bro, its a vidya game. Relax :smiley:

So what you’re saying is you should hire Aiko to gank the orca. It all comes full circle doesn’t it?

That reminds me. I should check in on my other Pearl Abyss character…

–BDO Gadget needs to craft a new bed to regain her energy

I’ve gotten hold of all the proposed changes. Its all in a spreadsheet you can get on the official declaration.

I had initially worried that the changes to the Procurer ( down from 4 mid slots to 2, and up from 2 low slots to 3 ) would have a big impact on EHP. But after running some tests, the fact that I can now add 400mm steel plates in that new low slot means I only lose 5000 EHP points…down from 65,000 to 60,000. And its somewhat made up for by the procurer being raised from cargo hold of 12,000m3 to 14,000m3, so less trips past the gate campers anyway.

Where did I mention lowsec ? I mentioned in another thread the hour long video of the solo highsec gate camper. Sure he has the extremely hard task of clicking ‘scan cargo’…what a strain !..but the point is that he CAN go off and make coffee or watch Netflix or answer the phone. He can be AFK for periods…whilst you are expecting his victims to be alert every nanosecond.

That is the sheer irony of people whining about ‘AFK miners’. Heck, those Sons Of Anarchy guys who zapped me a few days ago must have been AFK and bored stiff for hours…as the traffic from Aurcel to Egghelend is very low ( I know, as I have ratted in Aurcel many times ). And the fact that 3 of the six in the team missed me completely…lol…you expect miners to be alert yet it seems that team weren’t.

My issue is the sheer double standards applied to ‘AFK’.

What an intellectually dishonest way of framing the situation.

The “high-sec gate camper” needs to be present for as much time as they’re willing to perform work, while the “victim” only needs to be present while passing through an area in which the camper operates, of which there’s but a handful in the game. Yet you make it seem like the individual “victim” must always be on the look out for the gate camper, even though that particular form of work is split among the thousands of players who travel through a gank spot every day.

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It’s your response that is utterly dishonest and back to front.

It is the victim who will have ‘worked’ for a period of time to get what the gate camper / ganker steals in seconds. That is the entire basis of all robbery, even in the real world. People would not thieve if it ‘cost’ them more to do so than what the victim loses. They’d go out and get a real job ! You framing it as if the poor thief has to ‘work’ for hours and the victim is only in danger for seconds is SO outrageously reverse logic as to be ludicrous.

Splitting it between the victims is on par with the police telling a burglary victim ’ we had 50 burglaries in your region last night…which makes YOUR burglary only 1/50th as bad '. Lol.

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Uh, you are forgetting that this is a game.

Really?

Because one of the principal anti ganking arguments is that gankers don’t gank for isk and do it purely for griefing.

I mean all those ventures that get ganked ……. Are they worth it?

Ah…you might wish to refer that to the person who originally made the ‘dishonest’ remark.

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Why gank a Venture with a 2m ISK Catalyst when one could gank a noob Venture with another 40K ISK Venture and a couple of Hobgoblin 2, grab the 500K worth of ore…and make a 460K ISK profit !

You’re just moving the goal posts now.

The whole victim thing is a fun roleplay, but it’s important to remember that this is a game, in which people voluntarily agree to be hunted.

The goal posts did not survive a trip to Eudema.

I dream of the day when the sociopathy will end, and we can finally play cops and robbers, but without any robbers.