Multiboxing Poll

Ganks are relatively easy to prevent. You just have to have the mindset that you’re going to be cautious enough to do your mental checklists before undocking and then scouting. Very rarely have I seen any ganker really needing to put forth an insane amount of effort to catch a specific person, so as long as you don’t stumble into where they are literally camping - you’ll be fine :slight_smile:

Glad to hear that some players have the agency to protect themselves.

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Was that an attempt to try an make me flame and troll you ? ^^

2/10 there for the effort.

Either way, I was initially asked to give evidence of multiboxing, I wouldn’t give KM reports as that may well fall at risk of trolling and flaming further down the thread’s line, and go against the rules. Not worth the risk imo.

So I gave names instead.

Where have I done wrong in your book ? Please explain.

I’ve removed a couple of rule breaking posts. Please review the rules: Forum Moderation Policy - EVE Community

Play nice.

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Howcome so many other MMOs have hardline Alt and mutliboxing restrictions and have managed just fine for all this time also ?

Eve would definitely not have been killed off by it, people would’ve adapted, and it would be a very different game than now for sure.

Imagine for one second, having to hire a real Scouting or tackle specialist ?

Nah, use an alt instead …

So many tasks ingame that could serve an actual purpose to another player with another player, the way Eve was meant to be played, originally…

Not this sociopathic mudpit we ended up with.

Ok so just a little con,cept some people miss in this post:
Eve was build around the fact you could multibox. A lot of game mechanic are built around it and CCP CONTINUE.
Cyno change ? you need alt to cyno defense you’re cap.
Fleet who need scout ?
Cyno for JF ?

I could continue a long time.

In the opposite side play one account have some other advantage. But if you spend time to think issue is multiboxing you don’t understand the advantage.

So no multibox is not cheating, beacause it’s part of the game core mechanic, and CCP encourage it with a lot of recent change.

To make clear multiboxing is not going away nor is botting.

CCP has chosen a long time ago to go down the multi box route & to endorse it. 10,000’s of non multi box players have been driven out of eve owing to this choice.

CCP chose multiboxers over single accounters as a 1/4 profit forecast showed it to be more lucrative, long term profits have suffered. However, CCP would be in error to attempt to renegade. Harming multi boxing will not translate to single account pick up, not now anyway it is too late.

The exact same for botting, however botting remains quasi against the rules, there is no reason to attempt to stop alliance or player generated wealth generation. The only fight CCP should have is against RMT which hurts their $. However in the same vain don’t feel bad about RMT.

I am fully with CCP on botting & multi-boxing. The meta is brain dead botting, multi-boxing & n+1, if you do not like this then do not play eve.

Orginal game play is likely not an option for TQ anymore, it is n+1 till the milk runs dry then TQ Betsy gets a bolt to the brain. CCP allready sold the barn to some Korean’s anyway.

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In fact a lot of original game play was kill by CCP whent hey nerf thing in indirect way.
Olmeca was good for steal rorqual drone … CCP increase size of this drone to make rorqual can’t store they in a mobile depot … They kill the olmeca game.
CCP nerf rorqual drone ? less rorqual in space to steal.

CCP release ESS and DBS … but hard nerf all farm since near 2 years… pickachu face it has be good for only 1 month now it’s a dead horse.

Because they aren’t hard restrictions, just easily circumvented ones, all they will check is for another client running, and thats not to actually prevent multiboxing as such, there is also the issue that most other MMO’s require you to take a far more active role when playing, you can’t exactly set up your WoW character to orbit a boss and spam all its skills without input or cheating, whereas in EVE that is an entirely valid option, so in those games the restriction is mostly because its generally too complicated to manage multiple characters with 10 cooldowns each, probably possible but i wouldn’t want to be the person to try and run 2 instances of WoW and not fail horridly, outside of that its probably also down to any clientside anti-cheat they are running aswell, but like i said circumventing a 1 per PC rule is easy enough these days anyway and no game worth its salt would have an IP restriction on number of clients anyway, atleast not to any number that would be easy to hit

Agree to disagree

Sure, and imagine how few people would want to pay for that or get annoyed if they have to wait an hour for someone to get there, like i said above, even if there was a 1 client per machine limit that is easily bypassed

In the truest spirit of an MMO sure, but the game was also made with being able to use numbers to increase the speed at which you do something, a role alts fill pretty much perfectly, and CCP knew that going in

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Much of it was designed around team work. But you can’t stop people replacing friends with alts.

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The problem is not multiboxing. It’s botting and input broadcasting. Without those a group of actual people at the keyboard always have the advantage over a single person multiboxing.

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Ok so explain to me.
How stay afk cloack is a teamwork when you just wait you’re friend on super be gank?
No CCP make a lot of thing for multiple account. Stop to deny that it’s actually a fact.

Yeah I do. Now try it at a real casino or a back room game. See, online casinos have the same problem CCP does…they cannot tell if one person is running multiple accounts well enough. So they don’t try to stop it. Rather they allow it.

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They don’t try to stop it because its not actually a real problem, there isn’t anything that actually needs to be fixed for normal people

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Do we need to go in circles over this non-point? In general its not allowed. Move along.

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And “in general” it doesn’t matter, what other games wan’t to waste resources attempting to prevent they are free to do, doesn’t change that the vast majority of the games that actually attempt to prevent it are doing it not because it provides an advantage, which is the whole reason someone is trying to turn this non-issue in to an issue here, the fact that you seem to want to gloss over the reasoning for why its restricted indicates a massive flaw in the argument for trying to suggest it should be done here :stuck_out_tongue:

I am having trouble deciding if I think the REKT accounts should all be banned as punishment for intentionally wrecking the poll so obviously…

…or be thanked for showing so obviously how multiboxers (and others) can casually wreck any poll here. Hmmm… :thinking:

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Sorry I can’t follow your run on sentence but I suspect its way off the point I was making.

I am interested though if you can tell me if online casinos tried to stop single players playing multiple hands or not in the beginning of onine casino poker and/or if any changes to the system were made to compensate for the possibility of one person playing with multiple hands or teaming with others.

And if you don’t know, could you drop it? :grinning:

Neither.

The poll means nothing, except a good starting point for a discussion. A poll like this on the forums will draw only a specific subset (people interested in multiboxing either for or against) from a specific subset of players (that visit the forums) and will not be representative in any way.

So if you want to choose between thanking or banning them for influencing the poll outcome, I offer a third option:

Just ignore those multiboxers.

(In poll and in game).

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Just now, had a fight with a well known multiboxer who wanted to lure me into 3v1 frig trap, despite the obvious friendly cruiser on grid with me, and the obvious signs of a trap.

I would consider the guy a “friend” before, yet following the waves of insults I got as his plan utterly failed and he lost his 2 gank Dramiels … not so sure anymore…

This goes to show the kind of sociopathic mentality Eve caters to with this kind of allowance.

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What does an online casino have to do with an MMO, you’re comparing a legally regulated gambling establishment to an MMO