Nerf Ganking Megathread

have you asked the asteroids if they have feelings? Cows sure do have feelings. Many videos of them crying while being lead to slaughter. They know what is about to happen.

Now I think you’re a true fool. Sorry. Ever live on a “working farm”? Ever think about the feelings your burger has. It just never ends. :roll_eyes:

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That’s because you receive the killmail and the player with the final blow receives the killmail. Either of you can post it, share it to be posted, or authorise zkillboard to request it. It doesn’t take both of you to submit it.

Which game? Star Citizen?

Why are you turning against me here with that LINE? I Don’t mine every day!~

Side with me not her!

Can you proof that?

The only thing I heard about Goonswarm but there is zero proof that they request to help New Members move out to their Nulsec and that you need to contract all your items you wish to take with you.

I don’t know if that is true or not but it is all I heard.

Most, if not all, of this was already covered by other posters but I will still reply as my insight is slightly different.

  1. D-scan is useful in every space, I am very often doing sites with suspect or low value killright on me so I use it. The real reason you say it is useless is that you don’t want to be forced to use it. You chosen mining because you can do that afk or at least semi afk, otherwise you could just warp into random wormhole.

And I can understand it, nobody wants to spam d-scan while mining thats just nonsense. However the others are right that it would help you. It still takes considrable amount of time to land if you have chosen belt that is 10+ AU from the closest gate. If you have chosen belt that is <=2AU from the gate, well then not even seeing catalysts (or combat probes) on D-Scan will help you that is correct, but that also means you made one more mistake to avoid being ganked.

  1. Can you explain how are gankers workarounding miners watching local and docking when they see known gankers enter the system? Because there is just no counterplay to that. What actually happens is that the gankers who land on empty belt or on belt with miner just arping away just failed and must wait 10+ minutes longer before their scout (alt) find another system where they try it again. I am not sure whats the situation now, in 2018 I spent usually like 15 minutes to find a system with miners, but the more we ganked the more aware they were and eventually most roams ended up with them docking and us losing lots of time. 15minutes to find the miners in 0.5/0.6 (those systems aren’t that common) 10 minutes to get there, later only 1 of 4 roams ended up with success. The only counterplay to this is to change corp (which won’t really work if the miner was smart and marked every single character not just corp/alliance) or move to another region where they won’t hopefully know us as generally miners don’t share info. Unless you are mining at belt very close to gate, docking or warping to citadel/safespot within <10 seconds will save you everytime.
  1. By align it is meant to be moving towards some celestial object. Just turning your ship towards that object does nothing indeed. But that is just your misunderstanding about terminology. As far as your further complains below that it is not possible to mine while aligned, it is perfectly doable. What you need to do is to change the celestial you are aligning to something on the very opposite side everytime you are about to lose range on rocks. This is the way how you mine in lowsec with barge (whenever someone you don’t know enters local).

  2. Now I am not sure where I read it I can’t find it, but you were accusing gankers to be cowards who can’t PvP with anyone who shoots back.

I admit that is me exactly. That is the main reason I do ganking, because I can get into PvP that is favored towards me. Last time I went into lowsec to roam with friend in two thoraxes we spent 2 hours flying around Solitude, Aridia and Genesis, during that time pretty much everyone docked right away and didn’t undock till we left. Or he was at mission site and knowing we won’t have combat probes with our ships he just kept ratting. Twice the person docked and undocked with Proteus/Loki like as that was some kind of fair fight we should go into so we ran of course. Eventually, we did get blobbed (probably by alts) when we tried to fight a guy sitting on a gate (most likely waiting for us and baiting) because after 2 hours we were desperate enough to just get it over with. Same with null, gatecamps or bubble with cloaked t3c who can opt into taking the fight (if you are alone in worse ship) or not (if too many ppls entered local or you have also t3c). When I tried suspect baiting recently the same ■■■■, spent entire hour annoying ppls at anomalies in Verge Vendor and Placid. I have chosen Dragoon in order to increase the likelihood of peoples shooting on me if they are in cruiser or bc, in entire hour nothing. After hour when I was desperate so I started killing the rats in anomaly in front of Gnosis+Catalyst I was suprised with Vedmak who instantly tackled me and killed me without me having a chance to do anything. The sadness part was that those 2 carebears were still too scared to shoot me even when I was tackled and down to hull. And wardecs are gone too, not that it was any different when it was a thing, it took countless hours to find a wartarget in space who would let you catch him an kill him. Most of them just dropped corp back then you know.

So yeah. I am amateur that can’t pvp the elite players in low and null so I am therefore griefing players in highsec.

That being said, whether the gankers are doing it for whatever reason, whether they are psychopats who enjoy the destruction, immature nerds who were bullied on high-school and now they are getting their rage out, or real PvP incapable noobs like me. It doesn’t matter at all and it is not an argument.

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I’m posting in the nerf ganking megathread where nothing will ever be read.

You’re just watching CCP keep pushing the handle like the rest of us.

What level was that to? I’ve always had the feeling i should have gone for the level 3 sweet spot across things rather than go for the diminishing return of level 4 and 5 up front.

I did it in stages as to complement my skills in gunnery, etc. Basically, I ran through the list equal to the other skills necessary. I didn’t lvl up to 5 for yrs. You don’t need max skills to be dangerous! :wink:

Just an attitude! :sunglasses:

Edit; Now that I think about it, I don’t think I trained them to 5 until the T3’s came out.

You do know the reason why that is right?

This is how it sounds like when A ganker tries to talk with an Anti-Ganker on this thread.

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Zug Zug! :wink:

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No Eve Online, it would actually be worse for Star Citizen as we would lose less players to their game.

JJ

I believe the possible thought is that you give control of space back to the corporations, not the alliance. If you choose to protect a region and support each other greatly, having an alliance with hundreds of systems under their umbrella maybe isn’t be something CCP wants.

JJ

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From what I read max four corps in an alliance, so not so easy. And each corp is limited to 255 characters, so fun fun fun…

While blue standings are possible, players will just organise into the same Coalitions they do now.

It’s the way EVE already works. Coalitions are managed through out of game systems and through standings and access lists in game.

Players will always find a way.

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I believe this to be true for most gankers. Doing real PvP is hard, and it takes practice and, most of all, skills training and tactics. However, being a griefer in the game is a problem; most would say it is toxic, and that is fine; it is what will eventually drive you to low, wh, null, or out of the game. Game change is coming, and CCP understands that more and more every year. The appetite for a new player to have all eggs in one basket and start over isn’t there. Not when competing space games offer better deals to protect your real-life money better.

And you could get better at PvP, you simply have to give up the clubbing seals mentality which most gankers can’t, because they don’t feed off the easy kill they feed of the grief it causes someone newer in game, and that drives people out of the game and is lost profits for CCP. Which is why I hope the Chinese server test is successful, and I think it will be, and it comes to the tranquility server as I think it will help fill space up again and create lots of opportunities for new players to properly get started in the game.

JJ

Yes I know, but it pushes literal ownership of the space to a smaller level corporation. Meaning an Alliance can’t tax a huge area of space because they don’t own it. It really changes a lot in the game if that were to happen. It would make Null Security space much more fragile and much more obtainable for new corps to move in. It breaks up the organization of it a little I suppose.

JJ