Sure?
No implants, no boost, not even overheated. Thats “fit” right? And you could still roll some cheat mutaplasmids over the shield extender and damage control got get a bit more.
When we talk about HighSec, nothing prevents you from using implants as well.
I hereby declare Syzygium as the winner of today’s fitting contest.
Dracvlad has failed, once again!
PROTIP: Don’t forget to overheat those hardeners, and ORE Strip Miners are the appropriate choice for any serious Highsec miner!
sure it isn’t a Skiff you experimenting with there? Mack doesn’t get 250+ PG.
CCP will soon release a “forcefield pack”. Total immunity to damage in high sec.
Frequenting these forums and receiving consistent beat-downs from literally almost the entire community for years must have cut off a significant portion of Dracvlad’s lifespan due to all of the self-inflicted emotional stress, yet he keeps coming back.
It’s like repeatedly sticking a fork into a power outlet because you’re absolutely sure that you’re right and that the electricity isn’t. It’s uncanny.
I’m shocked that a self-proclaimed ice miner doesn’t know how to fit a Mackinaw.
Maybe his stories of mining success are just as exaggerated as his tales of PvP glory?
Of course I am sure, because what you detailed is not really a mining ship you nerfed it to a stupid level? It makes no sense because you would be better off using a Skiff.
Endurance and Prospect work very well for me.
Thats not the point really. You said that you can’t bring a Mack to 100k eHP, but you absolutely can and even without that much effort.
That the ship mines less the more tank you fit on it is quite obvious. And rightly so, the more safety, the less reward, as it should be.
Especially when mining Ice, a Skiff would simply not fulfill the role of “mining without requiring input for a long time”, no matter how much tank it has, because it has a lot less mining hold.
I am totally fine if you say “well thats still not enough tank in my opinion” for a ship that costs 300M, but then maybe say how much tank should a Mining Barge or an Exhumer have while still getting almost full yield?
Well you did prove me wrong, but you did a fit that no miner would ever do, I was detailing what I saw as sensible mining fits, and one mining laser upgrade was sensible. You can take this as you being right and I am wrong then. Still I will grumble at that 
In terms to your question on tank, I think CCP have got it about right at this point, finally after many years they are there. Those fit for full yield are easy to kill and quite rightly.
Syzygium is a known griefer, don’t believe anything he says!
Does anyone else ever get the impression that Dracvlad doesn’t know what he is talking about?
Only fits that show up in losses on zKill are fits people do.
No one’s ever died with a 100k+ EHP Mackinaw so clearly no one fits a ship that way.
Could be a sign of:
a) these fits work because the people using them are clearly not dying.
b) most miners are naive, greedy, lazy, stubborn or any combination of at least two of these attributes.
No, that can’t be because those reasons make too much sense.
Yeah but that is the problem with all this “miner ganking”.
Look at this please:
This is the most bricked military class T1 cruiser that has no damage mod at all and can barely fit it’s role: tackling something and applying a bit of firepower. Correct me if you find any non-faction T1 cruiser that can take more damage, the Maller was just the first that came to my mind.
It is designed to warp direcly into the frontline of any engagement with many hostiles against it. It has 64k eHP and cost like 50 Million ISK.
Compare that to a tanked mining barge, wich is an industrial ship.
It has a LOT more tank than the strongest military ship of comparable size and price, even while not primarily designed for frontline combat.
If there is anything wrong with balance, then for sure not the tank on mining ships. They outclass even military vessels at this point by a fair margin.
Emotional Damage II
Considering that you have been disproven in your assessment that a mack can’t be fitted to have an EHP > 100k, I also doubt that the endurance and/or Prospect work well for you, at all.
