You just have to find the one that is ■■■■ fit and bring enough dps for the job. I didn’t say it will always be economical. That isn’t the only reason to gank though. Sometimes you just have to make a statement.
It’s mathematically not possible.
No one has ever said that LOL. But then lying is the least of the immoral things you do ROFL.
No one would use a cata in low to kill mining barges ROFL.
Yea and a single cata can’t do it Thats the point.
CCP likes ganking, as long as they gotta multi-box too.
The sad is that soloing is almost dead. CCP wants people to have to multibox cause it means more accounts and more money.
It isn’t hard to understand.
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If you’ve done the maths I will defer to your experience. However I’m very suprised that a polarised talos can’t break a ■■■■ fit max yield barge with a survey scanner taking up a mid slot!
Git gud, scrub. Ganking is balanced because you can kill a Mackinaw with 4 Vindicators if you wanted to. But you just want easy rewards with no risk, so you don’t, and are whining about it on the forums.
Of course ganking could be made even more balanced, considering that high-sec is protected space…
Ganking isn’t purely a high sec activity. Any time you drop on and kill quickly a ship with overwhelming force or take advantage of a player having less experience you are ganking technically.
It’s just when it happens in high sec people get their underwear in a twist because they misunderstand high sec as an extended rookie area and not a low risk low reward part of space.
Personally I detest high sec. Most systems are busier than a main alliance staging and there is so much deployable clutter.
No, ganking is a purely high sec activity.
You cannot gank in other sec space. That’s merely PvP.
This argument is used in order to try and stealth nerf ganking all the time.
Please learn to EVE kthx 
Technically, words have defined meaning.
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Something is off, that dps is still bellow meta, where are the 6% implants?
Ogdin’s Eye Coordination Enhancer
Eifyr and Co. ‘Gunslinger’ Surgical Strike SS-906
Zainou ‘Deadeye’ Large Hybrid Turret LH-1006
You can’t hit Ventures without an Ogdin’s Eye, people should never gank without their implants, obviously.
Ganking pre-dates it’s use in Eve just Google the definition if you don’t believe me. Plus I live in nul and we use ganking to refer to killing krabbers and miners.
Anyhow I don’t see how this means ganking should be nerfed. In fact read my contributions to this thread and you’ll see I’m pro ganking and argue against it having a nerf. I believe emergent play styles should be protected.
Going off topic here but words are defined in two ways. By the dictionary and by common parlance.
Ganking I seem to recall originated as a hip hop term for gang kill and certainly came into common parlance being used in a number of games before EVE like Ultima online.
I don’t know if it has made its way into the ‘Oxford English’ yet but I’d be suprised if it hasn’t seeing as we now have ‘LoL’ in there.
Out side of high sec we tend to use ganking any time when discussing an Ishtar or Gila we are looking to drop on when we’ve filamented out to another region looking to hunt/ESS raid. Inside of Hi-sec we tend to add ‘suicide’ before the ganking.
When I talk about ganking here, it is really “hisec suicide ganking.” Maybe I should use the abbreviation HSG.
Do you when you start speaking like you do? An observation of the comments made by several gankers over a number of threads, also the attitude to this tank buff overall in ganker chat channels.
Sensible answer, but you do know that if the miner fits totally for yield in 0.5 to 0.6 systems then you can gank him with one Catalyst.
This I understand, I was rather impressed with Snuggly Guy, who was using an Eris to solo gank, which is a tad over 1,000 DPS, cost 43m. Ignorant people suggest a Vindicator…, thankfully you did not.
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I wouldn’t bother. We are in a discussion about nerfing ganking. Everyone knows the specific flavour of ganking here is high sec.
I was engaging in a minute quantity of tomfoolery because it was late and I was tired.
So your position is that an emergent play style that has been created by the players within the sandbox universe we built in CCPs sand box should be adjusted by CCP to the benefit one group of players and the detriment of another? Do I have that right?
If you succeed in this where does the meddling stop and where does EVE stop? Eve is the sandbox. That is the magic.
If CCP start interfering in specific playstyles then EVE will erode if you ask me. Little by little liberties will be taken.
“We are nerfing this but only to encourage new players into the game.”
“We are seeding this ship in the Plex store but only because our marketing shows this playstyle is incredibly popular and we want to see more new people try it.”
Thing is the health of eve isn’t just in recruitment it’s in retention. If you start nerfing one group’s playstyle or taking away player agency in the sand box then you will drive people away from the game.
This theoretical nerf isn’t really about helping new beans to play eve. It’s about helping new beans to play space WoW. Because that’s what will be left when we give away player agency to CCP with the idea that some playstyles created within the sandbox are inherently bad and should be meddled with by anyone but the players.
Snuggly Guy is not impressed by your attempt to prevent him from ganking, by forcing him to use an Eris, when he should be able to solo gank with a Catalyst.
If you cared about balance, you’d acknowledge that.
#bringbacksolocatalystgankingplaystyle
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CCP are continuously meddling with the game with balance adjustments.
Nope you do not have that right as ganking is emergent play then anti-ganking is also emergent play, that one anti-ganking has been nerfed so heavily I am trying to get that reversed.
The balancing never stops, a complicated game always needs rebalancing at times.
CCP have already destroyed several playstyles. I was enjoying gun mining for a long time, that got nerfed…
The biggest issue you have in any game for player retention is when the players blame the mechanics and balance, that is a key issue that everyone seems to ignore except me. I can tell you bluntly that many people left Eve because of that sentiment, I would say about 70% of all the hisec players that I knew who left told me exactly that. I know this is going to be ignored and insulted with forum warfare and all that but, that is where the issue has always been. I did help CCP by pushing so hard against bumping, so in the end that got changed to something acceptable, but they lost so many players due to it.
Have fun digesting that. 
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Dracvlad, the most brilliant mind in human history, once again employs his keen insight and incredible intellect to advance the field of theoretical antiganking. It is truly a shame that he no longer posts in this forum.
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The difference is you are proposing a specific attack on a play style. A rebalance that exists specifically to harm that playstyle ergo a nerf to that play style. When CCP rebalance they are looking at a wider picture and still it harms peoples play styles but that isn’t the intent.
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He is like a Jedi force ghost that no one needs, wants, or even asked for.
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