Nerf Ganking Megathread

Show me where it’s a law that stations harbouring criminals is illegal?

The Empires enforce their laws with absolute power. What you are talking about isn’t a law.

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Yeah, defnitely on the list of things I would like to see fixed. You are free to disagree as you see fit.

Of course not, they would simply reinforce it and then confiscate it. Making the owner throw out the criminals and deny them docking in the future. They are not monsters!

Yeah Captain Obvious, thats why the current situation is so ridiculous. :slight_smile:

So they would confiscate an entire station rendering all its inhabitants homeless just because a single ganker docked there?

Nobody is going to be homeless if the station changes ownership. They are not monsters! It wouldnt even come this far, the owning Corp would gladly throw out any criminal, if they would risk losing their property otherwise.

Lol…you’re the guy that said killboard was ‘irrelevant’. Typical Lucas. Everything’s ‘irrelevant’ until you slip it in somewhere…then it goes back to being ‘irrelevant’ again.

You should proably read one of my earlier posts.

This one specifically:

However, can you show where it’s a law that stations (which are only NPC owned by the way) harbouring criminals is illegal?

Obviously there is currently not such a law, thats why I argue that they don’t go after criminals with full force. They should declare such harbouring illegal and just punish the one who protects the criminals.

I have read your post earlier and like your approach. Another reason I don’t get why we are splitting hairs over semantics here.

So it’s complete ■■■■■■■■ to claim the Empires don’t enforce their laws with absolute power. They do.

Because words are for the most part, the most important communication too we have in the forum. They are important.

That’s not what you argued. You said they don’t enforce their laws with absolute power, when they do.

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Did I claim thy do not enforce existing laws? My apologies if I did, I might have been a bit unclear then. Let me clarify: I want the empires to treat criminals like criminals. Means no protection of any kind in HighSec, if anyone helps them, by remote assisting or offering them shelter, he goes criminal as well. Which means criminals shouldnt be able to dock anywhere in HighSec, simple as that.

Of course they are. Why pay more than you need to pay?

Each Catalyst represents one EVE Online account. If paying monthly, your ‘40 ships’ (assuming they were Catalysts) cost a total of $800. Hardly ‘cheap’, especially if multi-boxing.

Thank you for your rebuttal. I’m not here to respond on behalf of Raylan, merely to point out that he appeared to be challenging something you said, and that you, instead of responding in a focused way, brushed him off.

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Yes. A couple of times. Laws that don’t exist aren’t laws and you’ve clearly claimed that the Empires don’t enforce their laws with absolute power.

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In that case we made a big step forward that I had the chance to clarify what kind of changes I like to see and will keep arguing for. Thank you for giving me the chance to clarify that!

Any remote assistance to a criminal already results in a criminal timer also.

Where do they go if podded?

Tethering doesn’t. And its clearly a remote assistance, because it repairs your ship if you have any damage. And makes you invincible. :slight_smile:

To their home station, somewhere in out of Highsec. Why is that a question even?

Have you considered the Empire doesn’t like illegal mining?

If this is really immersion breaking for you, I am fine with removing the NPCs from the game entirely. Problem solved.

Criminals can’t tether in a ship at all, so nothing to repair.

The moment a capsuleer shoots illegally and gets a criminal timer, they also have a weapons timers. No one can tether with a weapons timer.

Only when they’ve been destroyed by CONCORD can they even warp somewhere and if they undock again in a ship, they’ll be CONCORDed again until the criminal timer expires.

Maybe they don’t. But I can’t see FacPol hunting miners or targeting a rock giving suspect timer. So sorry, no I don’t believe that.

I’m the FacPol hunting miners.

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We disagree here.