New mining ship?

Sorry but that is a terrible idea. For the exact same reason Alpha’s don’t get access to production skills.
If a free account can do any efficient production (or mining), then they can do ALL the production or mining.

No one runs 50 alpha accounts mining in ventures as it would not be worth the effort.
50 accounts in retrievers? HS minerals would crash through the floor.

Despite what the marketing department says out loud, Alpha is a limited trial with unlimited time and a way to keep unsubscribed players interacting with the game.

No one should want it to be more than than. If Eve were truly Free to Play it would require the micro transactions that would make it Pay to Win and kill it. No different than all the other MMO’s that died the same way.

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This assumes that 50 accounts ran by 1 person who is willing to be banned for violating the Alpha rules.

would you like to join my corp to help me learn?

Coercer like a 1.1mill isk ship with 8 turret hard points. just get a MUT and jettison the ore then come retrieve it after it builds up with a mamoth or somthing like that.

“Willing to be banned”???
So they will have to do what? Roll up another 50 alphas on 50 new free email addresses?

That’s my whole point. Alpha accounts can scale infinitely, so they can’t be allowed to do anything that huge numbers of can distort.

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You literally cannot run 50 alpha accounts at once. Multiboxing alphas, iirc is a bannable offense. I would have to go look at terms and services but I’m fairly certain CCP does not like that. Hence why we cant use alphas with omegas or other alphas.

I do not disagree with this statement. Alpha is definitely a limited trial, however, adding barges for alphas more than likely won’t break the game anymore than other changes ccp does. All it does is allow an alpha player to experience decent mining out side of ventures. Eve is a grindy ass game. No reason it cant be made a little less grindy for the newbros.

Sorry man, im already apart of a corp. But you are doing the right thing by asking questions on the forums and always use the in game channels for help as well

You literally can. You’ll just get banned for it, but if you’re botting and RMTing you already expected that.

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My first mining ship was an Armageddon

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Bulshit. Kernite is one of most profitable ores in low. It’s value isn’t in refined value but high demand from mission runners.

As far as alpha mining ships go. Alpha rokh beats low SP retriever in yield. If you agree to take the hassle of managing lasers stagger and dumping cargo. It’s far from AFK mining.

You will make much, much more with venture in low sec even compared to omega with barges. While actually learning something about the game

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true but you can hold more in a barge

Being more valuable killmail don’t increase your income

yet being able to live longer does.

You only have to live longer when collecting peanuts per second using a pricier tool.

A venture T2 fitted huffing gas in low sec needs to survive what… 20 minutes to pay itself off? Probably less. A barge in high sec takes multiple hours, if not double digit hours.

In that time a skilled venture gas huffing pilot has harvested more ISK worth both in terms of absolute comparison and relative to the cost of the ship they are using.

(When I was gas harvesting in a single Venture in low sec my rule of thumb was “a day of huffing is a half billion”)

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cant do a T2 fitted venture as an alpha.
This whole conversation is about alpha pilots and they are restricted to a T1 (Gas) T2 (Miner) fitted venture.

“a day of huffing is a half billion"
what were you mining to do that.

Ah sorry, thanks for the correction.

It’ll be less than that because of @PixyWarrior_Ellecon 's correction (T1 vs T2 harvesters).

You can get an idea of the gas each venture load is worth here: Gas isk/M3

And it does take some game knowledge / Uni Wiki knowledge to figure out which Mykocerosin maps to which regions (you’re rarely getting Cyto in lowsec).

And I do want to emphasize… that rule of thumb was across many hours of clearing multiple gas site… so it really does take an all-day play session to get that amount.

And there’s no reason to rage quit over the loss of a venture.

unless you have tier 2 miners and upgrades

Alphas. Give 'em an inch and they’ll take a mile…