Off-Topic Thread vol. 2

Put simply, were sin heritable in the way you speculate, a certain Khanid fool would be correct.

Your family is screwed because you’re no longer part of the Faith hierarchy. That you got into that state because some ancestor was an heretic has no further bearing that I know of, only the situation they got you into. (Thank you Aunts and Uncles, I appreciate it.)

No, Loai’d still be wrong. Slaver hounds aren’t cuddly.

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I wrote a whole essay on this. [Excubitoris Chapter] God Does Not Forgive: A Rejection of the Recent Concept of Forgivable Generational Inherited Sin

Short answer is “no.”

That is definitely short. But that’s ok! I’ll just find some random handful of FW people to overrule you!

We still, all those years later, have exactly as much independently-verified evidence to support that claim as we do to support a claim that in reality, the murder of thousands of Minmatar public servants, and even the Elder Fleet itself, was all an EoM plot to destabilize the cluster and drive the Empire and Republic into open warfare.

None. There isn’t a single shred of verifiable evidence that the murderers’ claims were accurate. There’s been no investigation of them. No accountability whatsoever.

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No, it troubles me to see people betray their nations.

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There isn’t anything to say otherwise either, I choose to believe in the word of the Elders.

That’s a staggering amount of supposition and assumption. I’d love to know what you base it all on. I have heard no leaders or elders of our tribe say they ‘knew nothing of the Elders’, or their existence. Your ignorance doesn’t translate to their ignorance, much like my crew and those under my responsibility remain ignorant of the vast majority of the things I know and act upon.

Oh, do the Triglavian meme worms still interfere with Upwell anchoring dinguses, so that capsuleers can’t place any new Upwell citadels in Pochven ?

I can see how that would… complicate… things.

I do not think it is confirmed to be “Triglavian meme worms”, but basically, yes, no anchoring stations in Pochven.

Drat! My narrative that CTRLV has never lost a ship, foiled! I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren’t for you meddling Minmatar!

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While the killboard is a quite interesting tool to track records, the usage in the forums, specially to brag, may not be looked upon fondly.

Perhaps there are other ways to make your arguments, defend your perspective and send your messages?

Best regards.

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Bragging is bragging; when backed by empirical data, it is at the very least honest in substance.
Perhaps you could attempt to articulate by what means one can better rationalize both the cost they have paid in service to Holy Amarr, and the one exacted from its foes?

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I agree with the sentiment that humility is a virtue. On the other hand, I in the context of discussions regarding one’s capsuleer combat record… referencing the literal combat record is not only permissible, but required for intelligent conversation. Thus, when an individual with 1/5th my kill record and little evidence of flying logistical ships implies that they’ve got more combat experience, and that I should stop whinging and do things, it’s a little odd.

One’s reputation isn’t only built on kills. It’s also doesn’t rest solely on titles or history of discourse. Each is a critical pillar. To shroud the weak pillars with decoration and misdirection rather than addressing the root cause may work for a time, but will prove unwise should one attempt to ratchet the ceiling to new heights. If an individual is frustrated by instances where their public statements are not corroborated by the record, the best solution is for that individual to speak with greater care - not for all the public to burry the records.

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Where exactly do you expect to find such evidence, I wonder? Do you perhaps require witness testimony that remembers my almost continuous Scimitar and Basilisk presence throughout the long process of burning out every Goon in the north? Or perhaps through the entire campaign of putting an unfortunate end to Co2 and the first operational and defended Keepstar in New Eden? Or perhaps when giving Init enough grief in Syndicate that they needed to call in their Goon masters? Perhaps when teaching Providence not to play with Keepstars without letting their own bloc know about it? There’s quite a bit more to New Eden than the warzone, Vektor.

As I’ve mentioned before, I have at no point attacked your record, and if you’re so damn insecure in your posting and stance that you immediately retreat into “I’ve spammed more frigs into the FW kiddie pool than you” that speaks more about you than anyone else. I don’t care about your combat record. Most capsuleers of certain ages in New Eden will have one and after certain numbers the diminishing returns will have long since kicked in.

Not that I mind my public records being public either. If someone who knows what they’re doing reads them, they’ll find that it matches both my words, stances and principles one to one. Now, if I were to start pointing out certain losses to Tetrimon forces in your alliance… does that match the publicly stated loyalties of said entity, I wonder?

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Logistics losses In the record. Those who fly logistics ships in challenging combat often, lose them often. You don’t. This is hardly complex, but then again - your response is hardly surprising. If you were actually proficient in this, you would no doubt understand why droning on to me about your null exploits in the context of how there’s “more to New Eden than the warzone” isn’t really relevant either. If you have an actual coherent point you’d like to make, please cleave to it.

I already have, repeatedly. You have yet to respond to them beyond “muh skillboard”. This doesn’t speak well towards… well anything, really.

I’ll give it one last run and I’ll try to keep it simple: Are you actually expecting to realize your vision of New Eden with your chosen means? Do you think anything you’re doing, here or in space, will actually get your targets to do what you want? By now, it really should have become clear that it’s counter-productive towards your interests.

if a logi pilot is on the ball, and is in a logi wing that is also on the ball, they… tend to not lose ships regularly at all.

Like, I’m fairly sure @Arrendis is a logi pilot, and doesn’t show up on the majority of reports of battles she’s been involved in.

Ofc, I am hardly an expert in that field, so I shall defer to the opinions of experts. Should any of them show up.

Arrendis has lost seventy four logistics cruisers, a relative step change, and a good example of the attrition experienced even by able logistics pilots.

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