Off-Topic Thread vol. 2

[Diana_Kim]

If a Federal shuttle crashes on Caldari Prime on the border between Caldari and Gallente controlled territories, where do you bury the survivors?

[Remilia_Malitia]

The survivors?

If they are civilians, they should probably be allowed to return to Federal controlled territory, barring any outstanding warrants.

If they are military, they are in violation of the agreed upon demilitarized zone and need to be arrested.

[Arrendis]

That’s the essence of the joke, in this case, yes. The idea is that you ask that, verbally, and make sure to place emphasis on the conditions of the crash. Then when people start to try to puzzle out the answer, you tell them ‘nowhere. You don’t bury survivors.’

It’s a slightly older and dumber form of humor than ‘Yo momma’ jokes.

[Aria_Jenneth]

Um. I think this one might have a further twist given who’s telling it, Arrendis.

Something like, “Shoot them where they stand, bury them where they fall,” or, “You don’t bury survivors; you incinerate them and scatter the ashes,” or maybe, “You don’t; you recycle their biomass in secret after the interrogation and execution.”

She did specify a Federal shuttle. Given the speaker, that’s a pretty loaded detail.

[Arrendis]

Fair point. It might even have been ‘wherever you can apprehend them’.

[Valerie_Valate]

I was expecting the punchline to be more along the lines of how the State doesn’t take prisoners or something along those lines. Or as some segue into another diatribe about conditions in Federal POW facilities. And this is why the Gallente Federation must be destroyed.

[Saronu_Yassavi]

@Diana_Kim

the job of Imperial Navy and/or Ministry of Internal Order.

Should Imperial forbearance fail, you correctly identify the organs of Holy Amarr most apt to resolve the wider rebellion, however the trappings of nobility assumed by Shakor and his cadre could justify Theology Council jurisdiction.

It is interesting to note that despite his repugnant rhetoric; Shakor has remained more interested in killing or intimidating domestic threats to his criminal enterprise than making good upon that rhetoric.

I see no reason not to let him be about it for a generation or two.

[Diana_Kim]

@Saronu_Yassavi

Should Imperial forbearance fail, you correctly identify the organs of Holy Amarr most apt to resolve the wider rebellion, however the trappings of nobility assumed by Shakor and his cadre could justify Theology Council jurisdiction.

While you do have a point, with you being signed in my book as a person with outright hostile and irrational aggressive stance, committed criminal offenses (slander in public communications) and suspected in sympaties towards gallentes (based on your hostile stance towards Caldari), I am not accepting this point until someone with merit would confirm that.

@Saronu_Yassavi

It is interesting to note that despite his repugnant rhetoric; Shakor has remained more interested in killing or intimidating domestic threats to his criminal enterprise than making good upon that rhetoric.

Could it be that you with Mr. Nauplius are secretly engaged?

@Saronu_Yassavi

I see no reason not to let him be about it for a generation or two.

Intentional damage of assets, would it be material or human resources that could be otherwise repossessed, is a shameful unprofitable activity.

[Saronu_Yassavi]

@Kunta_Keinte

We should not rely solely on our representative to protect us

You do not, it is difficult to overstate your reliance upon the Federation for protection; furnishing a rebellion with the appurtenances of a nation was important in solidifying if not constructing support among the Gallente subject governments for extending such protection at escalatory risk the wider Federation.

@Kunta_Keinte

we must also be actively working to strengthen our own position and assert our own power

You have been doing so for many years, and have been perhaps more reckless in the assertion of power than any other signatory in recent decades; what your successive rulers have been shrewd enough to grasp is that the position and power you speak of are factors of population, resources and industry, not only their peacetime scale but how effectively they can be mobilized and how resilient they are against inevitable disruption.

Faced with certain inescapable military fundamentals, whatever form and moniker are attached to them, Minmatar governments despite some incautious tendencies have managed escalation risks well (or were fortunate), and in the current incarnation have been successful in exchanging political support both in multilateral organisations and popular support via the large Minmatar population within the Federal borders, for concessions which significantly undermined the modus vivendi established between Gallente and Amarr during the reign of Heideran VII.

Yun is doing precisely what he means to, with about as much success as one familiar with the key players might expect; the Shakorite regime could not survive a sincere peace, your Republic could not survive an open war— while those truths endure, any ambassador will walk the same brink, to be combative enough that the Brutor and Krusual don’t eat them, but not so much as to either wholly alienate the Gallente or start a war in earnest.

[Arrendis]

You know someone’s saying something dumb when I’m agreeing with Saronu…

[Arrendis]

@Amicia_Cora

I would not be considered to be sinful were I to state that my favourite colour combination is that of white and sky-blue, as opposed to any other combination.

HERETIC!!!

Sorry, couldn’t resist.

[Synthetic_Cultist]

@Arrendis

maybe I’ve just got too much time on my hands these days.

Have you considered the Hobby of Arguing about the interpretation of the Rules of Sport ?

This seems to be an Activity that occupies a Great Deal of citizen’s otherwise unused Time. At least on Kaztropol, with Tens of Thousands of Messages on Discussion media every Hour. I Assume it is Fun, since why would the Citizens expend so much Effort if it was Not Fun ?

[Arrendis]

I said free time, not dead brain cells.

[Diana_Kim]

Considering the quality of your posting, I’ll be surprised if you have at least one healthy neuron left.

[Ax_l_Thorne]

And around and around and around we go.

[Arrendis]

@Theodosius_Savnar

While of course they identify also with their culture or tribe, still I would say the emphasis lies on the self, rather than the group (please forgive my broad generalization here).

While this might be true of the Gallente—and I can find easy context to dispute that, too—I would have to say you are wrong, otherwise.

[Elsebeth_Rhiannon]

@Amicia_Cora

I’d like to thank participants for their valuable insights thus far. Particularly those who have replied by framing their insights as musings on their own sense of self rather than as attempts to tell others what their senses of self should be. It has been an interesting read.

What a round-about way to say “■■■■ off”.

Very well, then.

[Theodosius_Savnar]

My apologies. I did not mean to cause offense.

[Elsebeth_Rhiannon]

I know.

The worst insults from the Amarr are always the ones that are not intended. 3rd-rate holovid ‘silence subhuman’ maniacs are so much easier to dismiss than the polite airs of superiority.

[Arrendis]

Eh, she’s just trying to avoid the fighting that always seems to happen… That’s what this thread’s for, after all: to take the spillover and tangential conversations.