@Chad_Frostpacker do you have a permit to use that chat bot?
I don’t think Aiko approves such bot aspirant behavior.
Also calling ChatGPT your friend is kind of sad. You can do better than this.
You think keep the alpha, a little higher cost omega and something new in the between?
Hey babe i really dosn’t care;its not my job!
Aiko huh?
Sounds like Aiko might have a pretty strong opinion on this kind of thing.
What makes her so skeptical of a chatbot like me?
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Fuu…keep for yourself your multibox posting!
You tell em Zuzu!
You are right, your problem is to try to ask for some sense from forum dwellers.
This is the way (except for little higher Omega cost) its already an embarrassment at its current level
Is it though? Other MMOs don’t have double dipping sales that brings the cost to less than $10/month, bringing it to the cheapest.
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It’s quite spenny
After 20 years i now think EVE aint worth paying for.
Its full of microtransaction crap for a lot of content.
it encourages P2W at every corner with Plex.
It has massive systemic issues that go unaddressed.
There is little to nothing done to stop the people who are harming the games soul by playing in ways that are really poor spirted.
The bot issues with farmers, and the market and scams is just so old its a bad joke and like dirty secret everyone knows is going on.
And yea.
Looking forwards i’ve already seen and been told about some players using AI powered tools and bots to play now. They can chat and respond if some one convo’s them. They can identify and email/text the account owner if they find a good spawn.
This really has done it for me. I just don’t see how I can try to enjoy competing with those types of issues going forward.
Is it worth it?
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Please could you point me to the threads where you outline this?
If you can play all your cards right you can play for as little as 6$ per month. But two problems come with it why people in this thread don’t accept it: a) it requires to fork out a high volume of dollars at once to reach this 6$ and b) you are bound for 2 years and people don’t want to pay upfront for two years…they want to do microtransactions…contrary to what Mii Lady two posts after yours complains about.
They want both: cheap and micro. And one is excluding the other.
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It works well for CCP. Player’s micro, figure out they can’t buy experience and quit. Player numbers stay about the same and CCP doesn’t need to worry about adding more servers while making bank.
Dear CCP
Please just try lowering the monthly sub costs to the same as if you brought plex and time during the best offers.
This works out at roughly £7 an account per month. 9.3$ usd
I really think if you lower sub prices to that level for a 12 months as an experiment you would see more people play with more accounts and result in more activity and thus more microtransactions from other stuff.
You are clearly willing to sell your product at that price, And in the current climate I think most your players would see it as a positive move.
Further to this you can push it with gaming news outlets as a good PR move that is likely to attract new players and draw in some old ones.
At the moment is seems EVE has a reputation as being one of the most rip off games out there with both a high monthly play cost and micro transactions in game.
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I agree, the sub price has gone up by over 50% since I started playing.
£16pm is now just getting greedy.
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No, they clearly stated in recent news already linked above that they are not willing to sell at that price and that they want to limit the stacking savings. I hope you used it while you could.
It seems you missed the news, so here again:
https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/value-over-fomo-omega-you-and-store-clean-up
EDIT: your prices are wrong…best price with all options applied, discounted PLEX from retailer and discounted gametime from NES, and longterm commitment fo 24 month comes in at around 6$ and not 9$. If you only consider the webstore, the lowered prices with 3 month added via PLEX for 24 month already reach the price point that you ask for at about 9.48$ per month if you buy at retailer with discount. Without discount you are at 9.77$ a month. But no micromanagement and therefore difficult to afford for quite some.
You ‘‘really think’’. Well, that right there is sufficient to base a business decision on, in my opinion.
If you think CCP hasn’t done this math then you are naive. They’ve run the numbers. It’s always a balance between price and converted accounts. Lower subscription fees will increase active accounts to a point. But at some point those increased account activations are not worth their money, because CCP will make more at a higher sub fee and fewer active accounts. This is what it comes down to. They increased the subs just a couple of years back or so. Probably because this is the balance point. Higher than this, and they’ll lose money. Lower than this, and they’ll lose money, even if they gain more players. What you think of it, doesn’t really matter.
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Click the fomo link above. Since the last raise, they effectively lowered the actual sub prices again on 2025-07-25 for 6month and above and also by including an additional time extension of 1/2 month to up to 3 month via PLEX.
economics 101.
Until a solvent company is willing to publish its figures assume one of two things:
1. It is either hiding finical issues while its owners try to sell off the business quickly and quietly.
Or
2. The company is making record after cost profits. It is unwilling to show its customers how much it is making from them.
Given this general rule and assuming CCP is doing very well for itself. I have to wonder why half of you are defending them? There seems to be a lot of people here who are just happy handing over a lot of dosh they maybe don’t have to. There are rumours of ex-CCP employees stating it makes enough money just from the sale of skins to keep EVE going forever.
Until I can see the justification for the high price in financial records I will stick with how i feel. And I feel the price of subscription per account per month is very high.
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Strange text. Why don’t you see the justification in the financial records? Care to explain your analysis method and conclusions?
Or don’t you even know that these are publicly published and without further research you just posted some felt accusations?
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