In a P2E monetisation program CCP would hard ban bots. P2E would require account verification too which would end 99% of botting. Your average botter unwilling to commit to real life wire fraud to bot in a game.
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Because there is enough Plex allready in the game to keep the pcu sub’d for 3 years or something like that. Recurring Plex purchases are not generating desired revenue & it is possible P2E will.
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The same thing that happens on pokerstars when some one dumps a mortgage, college fund or retirement, you give a “good fight”, if you have class. If not you bad mouth, then you stop when the moderator tells you too or you grab a ban.
To all the pearl clutchers and “I’ll sue you” dweebs, stfu you sound like idiots. Even the most expensive items in EVE such as faction Titans are nothing compared to pots and prizes on poker sites.
HTFU!
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If there was such an easy way to end boting they would already utilize it to end boting today. Also pretty ironic to suggest that to enable decentralized assets in this game requires more centralized KYC.
Verification by Visa, would eliminate 99% of botters, do you really think people will sign up to multiple cards to cheat in a game 1% maybe alongside RMT’rs but your casuals no.
Having to authenticate accounts will also result in a slight down tick of sub revenue from those unable to register for visa, so guess what CCP won’t do it. Exact same reason they reversed blackout, in the current monetisation format CCP loves bots.
Are we really at the point we think requiring a Visa to play a game is sensible?
Coz if we are this post is a cry for help. I’m not from here. Something has happened and I’m now trapped in your universe. I need your help to navigate the multiverse back home ……… where things are not completely mental.
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When P2E is involved of course it will. Also why would a company nowadays want you as a customer if you are not gonna pay em?
CCP was a start up when 3rd party mmo game card sites were still a thing, they ain’t really a thing now.
It’s Brewlar so it’s never sensible, factual or reasonable. With idiots like that the only solution is not to play, ie don’t take any of his posts serious and just treat it like unwanted spam.
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Would eliminate a large amount of regular players too. Example: I don’t have Visa.
Oh well prepare to get but blasted more and more as Eve aligns with the times.
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You will not be missed, and by a lot you actually mean a tiny minority of players who don’t have access to a reputable payment system.
Oh like Visa as in a credit card? That makes a bit more sense i guess.
Still don’t think its a good idea.
Oh thanks, Brewlar.
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Not really. The most likely candidate for a new “Play to Earn” scheme would require the player to have a crypto currency wallet to get earnings out of the game.
Reasons:
1 you cannot sell a straight forward, USD auction house or a casino as being “P2E”, because everyone will then just see it for the sub-zero-sum game it is: more losers than winners
2 copying a basic, real dollar model, like Diablo3, is likely to get PA-CCP into trouble trying to publish it in some countries, including PA’s very own, just like Blizzard before them
3 CCP has already partnered with Tezos before as an experiment during the tournament
4 it’s the blockchain-crypto-web3 unicorn where all the current hype is. Online casinos are nothing new, but this new crypto hype train may still interest share holders.
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This is the only post I’ve seen with legitimate concerns of P2E, the others are just reee’ng low IQ troglodytes, botters or both.
If CCP tries to pull a fast one by paying out in some obscure Cyrpto that they themselves have their hand in, no one will be interested and just laugth, myself included.
CCP have proven time and time again that they are not competent in managing the value of digital IP. I could not imgaine a company more ill suited to manage a currency. I will be cashing out into hard currency or bitcoin preferably via plex or you can shove p2e where the sun don’t shine.
I’m not concerned about gambling laws being applied and let’s be honest very few players are gonna drop in an 18 rated title. I am concerned about CCP’s ability to account for their in game books which they will need to do properly in a P2E title.
Sub zero sum game is only a problem when you are the sub, I’m not concerned. I can see a lot of these reeing beta’s taking issue, well at least they know their place in Eve and irl, LOSERS.
TL;Dr
We want P2E, not some monkey fist CCP Cyrpto because they’ve run up such high player subscription debts in Plex.
who is we?
I dont want it, I dont need the IRS breathing down my neck cause i forgot to put EvE down on my tax forms.
If you want to P2E with a game like this…get on twitch or youtube or both if you are serious…otherwise STFU
Hilmar so basically everyone who counts.
Good news for the IRS, eve is based in London and wagers are not taxed in the UK so no worries there unless you are seriously thinking you will personally be moving declarable cash sums across borders.
Also if you don’t wanna cash out then don’t, p2e will literally not effect you in anyway just like the hupernet and may even provide further funds to develop Eve.
Having no idea what RMT is…Google is my friend…
Oh yes, I’d like some Retired Massage Therapists in the game. When can they start ?
Real Money Trading, in other words, selling your ingame assets for real money. Currently not allowed and CCP will ban you for it when they catch you.
P2E will allow players to sell their ingame assets for real money, so it will be a legal form of RMT.
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Ah yes…well I agree with your statements against RMT. I don’t see how it conceivably benefits the game itself. In fact, the very thing that makes the game playable is the fact that money contained within the game is trapped in it…so you might as well lose that ship because you are never going to recover the cost of it.
Also, there must be a huge amount of ISK tied up in abandoned accounts, which would see a massive drain on capital if all those account holders were suddenly able to withdraw that as real money. Which is another reason CCP will never allow RMT.
There is a slight form of P2E insofar as ISK generated in Eve can counter the cost of buying PLEX, so one does not need to buy as much. But anything more than that would be a disaster for the game.