[Photon UI] Feature Preview - Multiple Overviews Feedback Thread

@CCP_Swift Will this be coming to the old UI aswell or will we be forced to use Photon to have multiple overviews.

From my understanding, elements of the tech that enables multiple overviews is exclusive to Photon

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That’s right, without this ability it is unthinkable to use the new Overview, I can’t even see the tag that the fleet leader has put on each objective.

These two would be brilliant additions!

The former would be great since I sometimes don’t know which overview window is the one selected for “currently active tab” for D-scan purposes. I am currently finding myself left-clicking on the one I want my D-scan to use just to not miss any ships on D-scan. (My other overview window does not have ships shown)

The latter would be great, to have more than 8 overview tabs available to use (Although maybe don’t make it tied to skillbooks? I believe that was a tongue-in-cheek comment). It’s more important now that we can have multiple overview windows.

Still maintaining my old thread because there was no thread on launch.

Still having struggles with dscan and brackets picking which window is in charge.

Overview visibility is a bad way to add/remove things from overview, should be changed.

still having inconsistent reactions in the ‘exceptions’ list, I cannot narrow it down on why it sometimes goes unresponsive. Not an every person problem, mostly just overview maintainers.

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Bit more feedback, hope it helps:

  1. When undocking focus doesn’t go to the window I expect, and as a result dscan isn’t working as expected. Primarily for this reason I disabled the preview. After a few times I wasn’t ready for that in the middle of engagements. I think it gave focus to the most recently created overview window?
  2. Reenabled again to try and create a ‘fleet members only’ overview. Encountered a few major issues, a couple of which felt like bugs. At one point, heading into an engagement no ships were displaying on my “primary” overview. I was surprised and I thought I was disabling tags/background on filter “A”, but turns out I was editing filter “B”. I’ve since disabled the preview again because of a few things outlined below:
  • “Save filter type as” doesn’t seem to exist, or it’s hidden, or I couldn’t find it. Was also actively hunting/active with targets. I thought it was a right click on the tab, and I thought it also was a button inside the overview settings / filter editor. Couldn’t find it.
  • I’m fairly positive I selected overview setttings/edit filter for the overview window that had my ‘fleet only’ filter, but ended up editing something different, or I modified a feature that applies to all filters, and not just the filter I was editing (although I don’t think so or wouldn’t expect it).
  • Sometimes, the dropdown inside of Overview Settings for choosing an overview filter was frozen, and wouldn’t open it.
  • Would be great to have some fuzzy-match-search on the filter dropdown because I’m looking for one overview in what feels like 100 because of z-s + defaults + random edits I’ve made over time.


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Can we get more than 8 tabs?

The multiple overviews time is something I have been waiting for.
I tried it out but was disappointed that the column settings were fixed to defaults.

It would be nice to be able to change column settings, even if the same settings apply to all windows.

You can change the columns – it’s now on tab right-click (I think).

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since you’re tweaking the UI can we get a better mouse cursor that doesn’t disappear completely in a bright area of space. even just a single line of black bordering around the old cursor would be a massive improvement.

The Directional Scanner window needs to remember which Overview Window and which Tab in it was most recently active.

Currently the Directional Scanner is broken for multiple overviews if you have dscan set to use active overview as filter: After jumping/undocking d-scan defaults to using the filters from the last active tab in the newest separate overview window, instead of the last active tab across all overview windows.

Result: after jumping/docking your d-scan no longer shows what you expected unless the last active tab was in the newest separate window.

What the Directional Scanner window should be doing is track and default to the last active tab across all separate overviews, or perhaps easier: it should keep the current filter stored rather than trying to find the last active one and reloading / applying it after jumps/docks, and only load a new filter when a different overview tab is marked active (no matter in which separate window).

Additional Suggestion: currently only clicking the header of an overview tab changes the active overview filter for d-scanning. Clicking it accurately can be a bit annoying and if you already have separate windows it might be nice to have a setting that makes clicking anywhere in an overview tab (like selecting a ship row entry) mark it as the active tab. Would have be a toggle, some people would hate me for making their d-scan filter change when they select stuff on their overview :slightly_smiling_face:.

Separated overviews should be stored per character and not per account. Ideally which filter is loaded in which tab, and which tab was active should also be stored per character.

Right now moving a tab to a new separate overview window on one character also creates a separate overview for other characters on the same account. And in reverse moving a separated overview tab back into another overview window does so for all characters on the account.

You seem to already store their position per character since they can be in customized locations, but this should be extended to whether they are separated in the first place and what’s in them. Not being able to customize that is inconvenient for characters that very likely need to do different things.

currently I have to hide separated overviews (and move their filters around) if I do not want them taking up the extra screen space on a specific character, but that leaves me with less tabs to work with. I cant remove it because then it’s gone from the other character where I do want it separated from the others.

Not sure if this is the right place to complain, but can we have the option to disable d-scan filters back? Preferably somewhere at the top of the selection?
There are times when i wanna know what my current-overview-filter just filtered out, without going through all possible other filters

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Just tried using multiple overviews for the first time.
First, a more clear way to open a new window would be great. Had to google and find a video to find out i had to right click on the tab and move to a new window.
Second, an easier way to reorder tabs, instead of having to copy paste and change settings.
Third, single overview and multi overview don’t seem to save tabs page settings between them, which leads me to an issue i found.

When trying to edit overview settings in multiple overview, my pc seems to be throttling down and the ui becomes almost unusable. Almost as if i’ve clicked out of my client on to my other monitor. With issue 3 above this becomes quite problematic to adjust the settings.

Nice feature,

Please add ‘Stop showing all bracket’ back,
Brackets settings was
-Show all Brackets
-Hide all Brackets
-Stop Showing all Brackets


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Hello, I recently tried to use the new UI (Photon Plan), but I found that the font of the new UI was too white and bright when getting the task description, resulting in very dazzling. I hope we can improve it to make it less dazzling.

this is all wrong, show all or some derivative was always second on my drop down list; this is 100% important af to me for the usability of dscan but you guys seem to have mussed it up for some reason and i cant for the life of me figure out how to change it back…

desperately need to be able to order those filters for my use… currently its just a long list of changes that messes with hunting other players… which is awkward as im in facwar and frequent wh’s… well did frequent wh’s with this change its made that a true ballache…

PS really dislike new overview style but i guess i cant change that either…