And my point was, Ms. Jackal, that your defensive personnel that chose to stay and fight to the end on your Azbel are also not ‘innocents’ by writ of their profession, employed by capsuleers.
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Deflecting from the reason I even ask about who the hell ordered it to begin with.
The OP in question here made the post out of horror of what was sent her way and In a emotional response made the footage public. They do not see this as anything lawful or justice. What they saw in your actions is brutality
Im not gonna turn my ire to them because they didn’t feel the need to record it. They’ve done nothing wrong here.
My care is not who made the footage public, My care is just what was the intenion here beyond just trying to provoke, trying to terrorize and how in the world is anything done here profressional when you could had just killed the lot of them then used the I.D to compile a report of all the names to send to NADSC so they can look down the list and go "Oh! John doe was killed. we can inform his next of kin.’ instead you had to make a long drawn out recording and force them to watch it so they can find out JOhn Doe died.
Then why was it sent to NADSC and not just have it locked away in what archive you got? Again you dont even have to record it, just have transcripts or documents about what happened.
No, you made a snuff film and when people call you out on it - You cower and say this is just standard protocol in servicing justice in your territory and everyone should learn to accept it as that.
You people made a snuff film
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Arrendis, I like the number 3. Its clearly the best number, right? Or is it 10? The best number certainly is not 4.
In before Arrendis spends an hour arguing about the best number.
I did. But like I said, Jackal’s just so incompetent at her lies, the best way to discredit her is let her do it herself. That, at least, is a field where she excels.
Judging by convos I’ve had with our FCs, it’s basically the only one, too.
Let me put this straight now I have a clearer head. I grieve for my crew and all the crew that lost their lives that day. I do my upmost when ever members who are put under my care when I take commander of ship to ensure their safety. They knew the risks, but they knew the importance of what we were doing. What I am angry about the is the very obvious spectacle that this video feed was. @Sahara_Jackal You knew full well the effect you would have forwarding it to Commander Adams. The malicious intent to once again agitate him for what? Fun and games? On Federation Day as well?!
@Sahara_Jackal Which is it? It seems to be that @Remilia_Malitia thinks otherwise?
An execution of crewmembers is not judicial proceedings.
Justice will not be served until no Trig or sympathiser draws breath.
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As far as I am aware the recording and trafficking of lawful terminations is not contraband on a Federal level and is in fact required as a matter of record in certain Agencies.
I only know this because some of the displaced individuals we have taken in possess colourful backgrounds.
Try to set aside your personal distaste for this one action and broaden your view.
Why send it to NADSC?
Why is the person in the video skipping and acting all cheerful, showing off dog-tile collections?
Why end the video with a tongue and cheek “Happy Federation Day!”
Im not concerned with it being contraband or not to traffic terminations made, that isn’t what I’m bringing into question.
It’s just this is not just some sterile “We’re carrying out our duty” This is making a show out of it then sending the show out to the victims to send some kind of message
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Forgive me, firstly: I am hardly as well spoken and professional as some of my corporation’s more elegant counterparts.
A part of me deigns to consider that maybe not every Kybernaut is not such an incredulous whiner but rationally, from my quiet readings over the last few months, it seems that this truth is not likely.
This recorded act of extrajudicial murders violates every scruple of civilized warfare — sovereign nations or not. The lives of crew are not props for a macabre joyride; human rights are not an opt-in experience that are discarded when one wishes to proselytize, irony notwithstanding. As far as I am aware, civilized space is still at war with the Collective. Military actions — be they as simple as ship to ship combat or as quiet as logistical disruption and asset removal — are not terrorism. Or, at least, I would hope a group that has cleaved stars out of the cluster and actively occupy chunks of the empires’ homes would not be so sensitive as to plaintively label the legal, war-time retaliation of others as ‘terrorism’.
However, it is evident in the tone of the recording that it was made not as a warning or at threat, but a childlike taunt. It is evident the delirium of both power and the pod has stricken at the core of Collective-aligned capsuleers. They forget themselves, and they forget that not every wartime captain’s patience or providence flows endlessly. With this video, the Collective has set another interesting precedent; NADSC shall retain this precedent at mind in future engagements with the Collective.
When Pochven burns, it will bring me great joy to commission a nice set of diamonds from the ashes for every captain and crewman in NADSC.
Yours,
CC
CEO, NADSC
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And another time where triglavian sympathizers show their true face as psychopaths.
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I can not speak to the motives behind these actions, they seem just as alien to me as they appear to be to you.
Yet making such information free is the the closest thing to a “holy-act” possible within certain circles of the Federation. It certainly is within my humble Monastic Order.
My grief is not for the Federals I put down. There is no contradiction here.
Luc Duvailer could not have said it better himself. How typical for a Federal to default to genocidal threats every time they meet adversity. Try as you may to paint me as some sort of villain with this thread, I only ever limited my executions towards a select few convicted terrorists.
You play coy. It’s tiresome. You are a butcher, joyfully so, who preens themselves behind the assumed veneer of self-imposed legality. Enough. Own your crimes and stand tall upon the pile of corpses you wish only to grow, or shut up.
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Grief in what happened to us, not what happened in the lawful execution of illegal combatants.
She processes her grief by throwing herself into her work. And, as she says, she takes pride in her work.
If you wish to add to the pile, that is your own prerogative, personally I’d still like to keep all killing to a minimum.
Should you elect to grow the pile further, though, I would still refrain from standing on them, for I value the cleanliness of my boots too much to subject them to such disgrace.
This is a hard sell, considering they were members of a capsuleer crew. May as well be trying to say that any combatant you don’t approve of is illegal, despite an active war still being underway last I checked, and this fanning the flames you and Remilia are doing is only going to serve to make it last longer, with many more deaths to it and your own names.
■■■■■■■■, and you ■■■■■■■ know it. You nor your superior would have sent this to NADSC in such fashion If you weren’t trying to antagonize and cause more strife. If your intent was to intimidate into submission, the format is entirely wrong. And if, again, the intent was intimidation, and you truly believed it would work, you are even more the fool.
This, also, I may add, signals the end of our Agreement, @Remilia_Malitia . You wanted to burn bridges, you certainly have done so spectacularly.
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Who is whining? Certainly not us. You sent your ships on a suicide run out of pure spite after we fended off your pirate friends. Now you have reaped the consequences, performed with surgical efficiency.
You’re not military. You’re thugs with more isk than sense.
And the laws of your petty empires have no purchase among Pochven’s stars. We, the Glorified Kybernauts, were exhorted to extirpate all those who dare to interfere with the Weaving of Pochven–and by God almighty, so we shall.
TL;DR? You ■■■■■■ around, and you found out. Try not to cry so much.
Terrorist execute prisoners, record it and send to their enemies, to you know incite terror. But all you have done is incite anger.
Your form of lawful is as twisted as your form of diplomacy and self righteousness.
I doubt this very much.
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There you go again.
Our attacks on your structures have not been out of pure spite. You’re projecting again.
Instead of projecting try taking your own advice…
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Really wish this repetitive narrative against me would be dropped. I recorded only what I was instructed and sent it to Ms. Jackal. My only goal was to process the convicts.
You shouldn’t. I have been advocating for de-escalation and normalization of relations between the Collective and the Empires for months now. It just seems to always fall on deaf ears, maniacs too blinded by their visions of vengeance and violent reclamation to think about the human price to their excursions.
Too often do you all only think of battles by the number of ships destroyed, infrastructure and equipment disabled, isk lost.
I present to you the human price you so often ignore, and your reaction is to enable the death of more.