Hufflepuff…
I can see the merit of point one and it’s why we have 500 thrashers in stock, looting all would indeed pay for the gank, other than jita where both side would fall to the loot bots, I take it they are back but in your other post you said it would pay for the gank, well I actually looted a ganker in jita the other day in the absence of bots, yes around 10 mill each one.
Point 2 is to much like being a criminal and yes I understand this is eve but I don’t want to kill for the sake of it, you have too make a stand on how you want to play.
Now I’m happy to hunt and kill a ganker or criminal because they agreed to it by being what they are. The only place I feel my alignment aligning with gankers is in regards to bot farmers.
Now pulling concord is an iffy subject and I want to stay away from it. If we did start pulling concord the gankers would adjust in some way and back we are to the same point, but yes your right it would work for a while. I actually think it’s better used in other circumstances but pilots can work that out for themselves.
Scanning ships? Well no, people need cats for other stuff so not a time effective task, again to much like a criminal, again back to alignment.
Now in the past I have said about ganking permit holders. Indeed some actually go out their way to by a permit to show as support for them, others are bulled into buying them. I would be happy to gank supporters.
- bash stations : well would like to one day.
So yes because right now, all your points may work, some id like to try, others would be to short lived and worked around and may end up in a worst situation.
Your speech have improved, that’s for sure!
I only said the very public and very obvious things, the really nasty things I would not post in the forum at all.
If adversaries learn how to counter a thing or two someday it is not a problem, defending against them is burdensome. New things could be done later, creative people are the best people to have around.
There’s a lot more about scanning, just start scanning with no specific goals and an entire universe will unravel in front of you, just like it happened to me.
Now pulling concord is an iffy subject and I want to stay away from it. If we did start pulling concord the gankers would adjust in some way and back we are to the same point, but yes your right it would work for a while. I actually think it’s better used in other circumstances but pilots can work that out for themselves.
They can’t adjust. Literally just coordinate with haulers, pull CONCORD on either gate and there is nothing they can do for that window.
My I.Q. Test came back negative.
Honestly, if AG coordinated it wouldn’t even be hard.
Ganking is not that hard, low IQ people do it on the daily
So if people that gank have low IQ, how much lower is the IQ of people who never PvP in the first place? Are you talking another -20 points, half as much, or exponentially less?
Ganking is not that hard, low IQ people do it on the daily lets not pat ourselves on the back like it is some magical feat, it simply isn’t.
Yes flying through high sec trying to catch that juicy Venture probably is difficult, but it is a fast ship and to be expected.
Sloppy game play, because you Leory Jenkins into the room and you know you are dying so it doesn’t matter. there is no real skill needed. If you were any good at real PvP you wouldn’t be in High Sec playing around with the crabs.
What’s funny is you think I was talking about ganking. The reason why AG struggles is it is hard hunting another player who is actively taking measures not to die.
I get you aren’t good at PvP in this game. It shows
I’ve actually killled Leeroy Jenkins bruv I played on Laughing Skull
I get you aren’t good at PvP in this game
I’m not good at pvp in this game. But at least I go out there and give it my best anyway.
Oh me either. But I know for a fact ole JJ has never hunted a player in his life
Funny, how the people who have no experience in something are the ones that are the most outspoken about it.
Aiko said she would like me
Forget AIKO, I like you long time, and for only for 1 billion ISK plus Dravclad’s frozen corpse.
plus Dravclad’s frozen corpse
I can’t do the impossible.
I can’t do the impossible.
All the world knows how Drac is feared on the battlefield.
Remember, his mere presence made an entire fleet dock up!
his mere presence made an entire fleet dock up
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Well, I am just saying it because I know nothing will happen.
Indeed, the mechanics are there, they just don’t like them. Also, they are not really putting significant effort into the activity. If I was AG I would be the most successful of them all.
You got to know how ganking works and you need to be able to think like ganker (or the enemy you are hunting whoever it is) to figure out how to beat them. AG’s biggest issue is that they have moral issues to learn ganking by doing it. I suspect it is because they fear they might like it and actually become a gankers. Your image is spot on.
I can see the merit of point one and it’s why we have 500 thrashers in stock, looting all would indeed pay for the gank
This is actually only paying for itself if you fix the security status later by ratting and not tags. If you use tags, you will be losing ISKs. Still as I said previously - in your view gankers are expected to do this, yet for antigankers it is unacceptable to lose ships.
I mean I get you, it is stupid that the only answer to anything now is ganking, but we got there thanks to carebears crying about wardecs.
The main problem of AG itself is that it is waste of time and it is pointless. Gankers die anyway and the peoples you want to protect are bots, bot aspirants or just greedy ungrateful bastards and many times they are alts of some nasty lowsec/nullsec alliance that is even more “evil” than gankers.
There is no incentive, you are not achieving anything significant. All that AG can accomplish is to grief the bad guys griefing good guys, but it is still griefing no matter how you put it.
And 99.9% EVE players won’t do something for which there isn’t strong incentive other than their own. Therefore AGs will always be under-numbered. Still even one AG can be a solid nuisance it just requires insight into ganker’s mind and patience and dedication. I can see some of your pilots are decicated and patient, but they are missing the insight and maybe even player skill to really be successful in their job. (Unless I am mistaking it and the NEPF- pilots sitting at jita undock whole day are just an intel bots.)
This is actually only paying for itself if you fix the security status later by ratting and not tags. If you use tags, you will be losing ISKs. Still as I said previously - in your view gankers are expected to do this, yet for antigankers it is unacceptable to lose ships.
Not got time to answer all your post right now so this part 1st, as eve allows us to have other accounts be it Alpha or omega we will not be buying tags and why you think as crime fighters we don’t find it acceptable to lose ship is a bit strange but your free to have an opinion.
So in my view ganking is part of gank, it’s always been who you kill and what reason it’s taken place. So following on from that point killing jita gankers with the same tactic or game mechanic as they use is totally acceptable. As for the isk you’ve misread or taking it out of context. I was talking about going one on one with tornados, where are the post was in fact saying 7 thrashers would work just as well and you could cut your losses down even further by looting.
Please stop projecting how you think AG and crime fighting units play this game you are often wrong.
and why you think as crime fighters we don’t find it acceptable to lose ship is a bit strange but your free to have an opinion.
From your own posts where you disregarded ganking of the gankers as valid counterplay. From other AGs posts like Dracvlad’s and from the fact that you are not doing it ingame and even when you run logi you have yellow/green safety. That to me seems like you are adverse of losing ships. Not as adverse as most carebears, but adverse nevertheless. But okay I am willing to admit that I might be wrong because the potential ganking of the gankers would likely be performed with an alts which I won’t see on NEPF- killboard.
Please stop projecting how you think AG and crime fighting units play this game you are often wrong.
Please be specific. What I say is based on what I see on your killboard and what I see ingame. As a Jita ganker I see your corp pilots everyday and I interact with them daily too. I don’t have spy in your corp (betrayal or spying is against my principles believe it or not) so I don’t know everything and therefore I am guessing a lot, but what I see suspect what I claim. Hell I am even undocking with -10 from jita 4-4 in front of your pilots and they can’t do anything against me other than sometimes whore my ship after I kill pod. And even at that there are many other guys doing better job than your “police” corp.
This is actually only paying for itself if you fix the security status later by ratting and not tags.
Ratting is loosing isk, because of its horrible time efficiency, tags work out cheaper on your time.
Either rat for 4 hours or do efficient pve for 1 hour and buy tags and have more isk left over than the 4 hours of ratting would have given.