Lol anyway watch out for the 7 Thrashers
Why do gankers get so uppity with what we do.
Oh and to be clear fixing our ss is not part of our plan, neither isk efficiency really
4 hours? You are assuming null, perfect pve skills, omega and perfect social skills and probably ratting in Marshal right? And you are assuming that the person who is buying tags will make profit by the ganking - which is not the case here.
Those are not really reasonable expectations at all…
But I don’t really disagree, yes tags are better. All I was saying is that this whole “7thrashers is cheaper than 1 tornado” is false statement if the characters doing this will ever buy tags to fix their security status. In fact, it is going to be in long run less ISK efficient than using that one tornado.
Now, if they use -10 alts, then this doesn’t apply, but good luck ganking anyone more than once if they use -10 alts. They get away with it once maybe, next time we simply dock when we see them arriving.
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Fair I agree that tag’s / recovery time should be considered into the factor of ganging.
Being the majority in every game, they eventually get their way and ruin everything they touch.
Cheaper timewise to buy and sell plex if you earn more than $1 an hour IRL.
Why grind when you can just buy your pvp ships with your credit card and have fun?
Who wants a second job?
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Yea but then Eve becomes a very expensive hobby at that point.
No one want’s to sub for 150 Euro a year then have to pay another 300 for plex.
I hope new mmo’s come out that significantly reduce the grind requirement’s.
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It depends what you’re priorities are, mine is having fun. Since the price increase though have spent about £5000 on yet another bicycle , some of which would have gone to EVE.
No MMO can really do that. Only instant action games like fps and MOBAs can give you everything at the start. But once a game has something that isn’t instantly at the best value possible and that needs more than one day of playing to achieve, players will call it a grind and start doing it, grinding it. And while they hate it, or so they claim, the fact is, that they wouldn’t be playing game where everything is given at the start and all players are equal and only skill matters.
Obviously but I’m not talking about such extreme’s, I mean the mineral costs of ship’s are quite substantial compared to the people mining the minerals, there are a few players who can earn lots and then its decent but there are some people mining for 35mil an hour and have to grind for crazy long times before they can actually affored anything.
Reducing the grind would be lowering the mineral needs (bpo’s) for items and ships so that Hour’s mining = more stuff than current.
Everything else will balance itself around that.
You talk about instant which is very far from a buff. instant is 100000000000000000% faster a buff is maybe 50% faster.
It’s about that ratio of Farm time vs Combat time(Spending that isk having fun in w.e way.)
For 5% of the eve universe its like 1:2 (The Elite) Content creators usually.
for 20% of the eve universe its 1:1 (The older players) Healthy
for 70% of the eve universe its like 5:1 (Most ratters and miners.) Risk averse becuase of this ratio.
and for the last 5% its 50:1 (New players.) 1 ship loss sets them back days/weeks.
1:1 even 2:1 is decent and healthy, at 5:1 people are playing Eve as a second job.
Well I was talking generally.
If we are talking here specifically about EVE and mining/production rates then yes. Mining is super boring and it doesn’t seem it is making money at all with single account. I was suggesting already in other thread that mining should be more active gameplay, some kind of minigame where you have to focus the whole time, and then the mining yield could be much higher, even twice idc. But as long as one can semi-afk 20 accounts mining in highsec I don’t think yield should get increased or required minerals for production should be decreased.
As for PvE ISK into PvP conversion, can’t really tell, not seeing the huge issue there personally.
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Agreed people that want 1 account should be able to increase mining many fold by being present while the multi account people can afk at a reduced rate.
Mining/production is the base line adjusting those value’s set’s the rate at how much people need to farm for the entire game I really hope CCP look at and consider it.
Yes, you would and I don’t even know you, but I recognize you would just because you have the right mindset, seeing mechanics as they are, mechanics are pure and void o moral interpretations.
Exactly, they don’t get it that the roleplay and the story behind the act is what says if its “good” or “bad”.
But everybody agrees that ganking botters is heroic and a good deed for the whole community… right? This is proof that the background story of that gank is what controls the narrative and how people perceive it.
What I found in my brief stint as an AG, is almost all AGs don’t know how to PvP.
Hence why they can’t stop ganking.
Also the majority of the AG channels are just peeps crying about mean gankers, and not actually wanting to stop them.
I’d ask if peeps wanted to fleet up to stop some ganking and be met with a whole lotta silence LOL.
I already gave her the solution to this.
It isn’t tho. Its pretty obvious what ya’ll are doing.
As I said in the guide, running an actual AG alliance is very time consuming, as is running any organized alliance.
Also once your RP doctrine broke down, it shot your credibility to hell.
Which is a sad thing too.
Because you’re the one claiming to be a police force.
I already gave her the RP out to explain away why they’d have to gank.
The hard part is they never were really strict about the RP doctrine, so it all kinda fell apart pretty fast.
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I am telling them all, specially Githany, for years that they have to gank, it is also assymetric war.
Is there a chance they get tainted and give up AG and only gank…? Well, there is!
It’s more they don’t know how to stick to a PvP doctrine.
Also give me a shout on outlands.
I had to escape PKs like 4 times last night 
My PvP char is finally done being macroed tho, so gonna take him out for a spin this weekend.
Yes, antiganking is just casuals, thieves, people who go for learning certain mechanics and Githany’s corp is the serious one compared to the rest, that’s why I wanted his corp to become more agressive and go for more engaging gameplay.
I am in the newbie dungeon right now, multiboxing those two!
Melgor is a PVP Mage nd Morigor is an assassining trainiing fencing and poisoning!
I’ll hit you up on Discord.
The assassin is for killing miners, I won’t farm for anything, it’s against my rules… all items I need have to come from people’s loot.
Ahh nice. Yea keep all your PvM chars on one account. The others can be for PvP and such.
Hally mage does really good still or archer. Nox fencer is also nice. I died to a nox fencer couple days ago. Just barely ported back to town before the poison killed me haha.
I just baited a guy into attacking me and the guards concorded him LOL!!!
Just got out the newbie dungeon and killed someone already… this is foreshadowing at its best
Ahh nice haha. Yea, people do it sometimes if they think you are a thief. If you’re red hand you can be attacked even when blue and even in town.
Lots of people suspect bait by the moongates.
You can also kite mobs to kill people in the newb dungeon
do this macro with red letters:
* Gix Firebrand is attacking you! *
See the magic happen, unaware people will concord themselves