It is your problem because of the fact that under these rules ANYTHING you do, can be reported for harassment and lead to a ban. Even normal, basic game interactions such as taunting banter or killing someone who wronged you inside the game.
Anything could be reported also with some strict rules.
CCP job is to deal with it anyway.
Not my problem.
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It isnât your problem until you have to deal with it, or your friends get banned over nothing.
I see a lot of abuse being possible, especially against gankers. That is what I am against. I believe in-game actions should to a degree be exempt from parts of these rules.
I can see what your concern is. Microaggressions are a slippery concept and one Iâm not comfortable with. In an international arena such as this, it would be too easy to say something innocently which an overly sensitive person could construe as an attack.
But with strict rules, not everything can lead to a ban. Thatâs the difference.
Yes, thatâs why I asked for a clearification in the nicest possible way. It was greeted with âwe donât do that, itâs pedantic and rules lawyeringâ. I for one am legitimately concerned over using the chat actively because of this
I just asked someone in local if he wants to have mining boosts and I am concerned that he might feel offended. After all, Iâve implied he isnât âskilled enough to use them himselfâ or that he is a âlesser miner because I mine moreâ.
Yes, this is possible racism if he is anything but a straight white male (because I am, lowest of the lowest on the âsocial groupsâ victim scoreboard) according to the vague definitions CCP has given.
Yes, I consider that entire concept detrimental and infantile, but itâs the way the world works nowadays.
I think nothing will change⌠
I would be thrilled if CCP would confirm that. It would alleviate all my worries. CCP just denies to do that. Thus, I think itâs not entirely unreasonable to be concerned.
Thing is, Itâs not the âoverly sensitiveâ person who judges if itâs harassment or not. Itâs the CCP GMs.
Strict rules lead to people dancing around the line. Every damn time. Rules lawyering about what theyâre doing.
Youâre not going to get a strict list of âIf you do this, youâll get banned, if not, you wonât be.â Thatâs not going to happen. Expecting such is at best naive. Or quite probably disingenuous.
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CCP will not make rules that would tie their hands in dealing with any dumpster fire.
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CCP will not make rules that would prevent them using loopholes to keep their friends safe from those same rules.
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No. Iâm not bothered by what others write in a video game chat.
If what they wrote, affected someone else then Iâd do something, but so far thatâs never been the case.
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Your proposed scenario there is and always has been harassment. That is nothing new. If someone really takes steps to get away like moving across space, changing Corp etc perpetually targeting them is harassment.
There is no justice in the world. CCP is no exception.
Yes, and for all I know, CCP might as well be overly sensitive now. Do you think itâs âRules Lawyeringâ if you ask if this is the case or not? âDoes CCP share concerns in regards to overly sensitive persons or notâ would be a damn good question to answer.
I donât expect that. I didnât expected it to begin with (I do know how GMâs act and what gaming companies will do or not, probably as good as any other GM), but it should be aknowledged that players have legitimate concerns over CCPâs extremely vague rules and some of them demand a better (please do not mistake this for âcomprehensiveâ again) explanation.
Is it so hard to understand that the game used to be a harsh place and players want to know if this is still the case? Is it still a âyou wonât get someone banned over trivial stuff and HTFU until stuff getâs really badâ or âanything you say could be offensiveâ?
CCP has not confirmed nor denied any of that and that is the problem, yet somehow this is seen as ârules lawyeringâ.
Sharing your philosophy is in no way equivalent to âelaborate on every single questionâ and itâs CCP philosophy that is desperately needed.
I think we can all agree on that. They need to be broad, but right now, they are just too broad. That is the criticism.
EDIT: Disregard this please, because of: Policy Update - Real Life Threats & Harassment - #316 by CCP_Guard
Because depending on context the same thing can be trivial or serious.
And CCP have already said in this thread you wonât get instant banned for anything but the worst behaviour.
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And right now, the rules are so broad that effectively ANYTHING can fall under it. That is equally bad.
Because CCP doesnât want to be updating their rules every time someone finds a new way to harass people or when language changes. The rules are broad to stop people from trying to slip through loopholes. The broad rules also allow the GMâs and CCP to use their discretion on what is allowed and what is not. All of this always depends on the situation, which strict rules would make much harder to take into consideration.
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That is not true though unless you subscribe to a (very promintent) radical ideology which many people do not. That is literally the entire point. Does CCP think anything can be offensive? Do they subscribe to the same ideology or not.
They are as broad as is required to take into account loop-holes,rules-lawyering,the evolution of language and the ingenuity of Eve-players.