Kezrai
The way how they choose to monetize their server population is irrelevant. That depends sole on the business model.
Popularity is a common key factor in most business models today. The more people visit your digital space place, being that either a social platform or a gaming app, the more potential customers you have, ergo more potential profit.
How many from that visitors actually become paying customers is called conversion rate, a variable distinct from popularity; but that anyway is not our topic here.
Oh we are interested. It’s you who only now tries to make us ‘look wrong’ for believing we make you ‘look wrong’ and have started trolling. I don’t see you picking up our stance but only attacking us on a personal level now. And yes, @Anderson_Geten, that’s what I, too, call salty.
So unless you actually do have something to say to the topic, and not about us as persons, then I suggest you refrain from making further comments about us.
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Already said, multiple times, you just can’t comprehend the information in front of you if it disagrees with what you want to believe.
Advertising, promotion, salespeople… all methods companies use to increase their financial success, adding to the income of the company without directly purchasing the companies products.
I already said you would define “only someone who directly pays for a sub or Plex” as being ‘contributor to the financial success’, to avoid the issue of the all the other forms of contribution that make up the success of a game or any other business.
You realize of course (well actually you don’t, because that would involve admitting you’re wrong), that your definition of “only a direct payment is financial contribution, and the entirety of that payments’ value can only be attributed to one person” (which is what you’re saying with the “why do you feel you can claim someone else’s contribution?” red herring) directly implies that no one who works at CCP has any contribution to the financial success of the company, unless they happen to pay for a sub or buy Plex. Because, only a sub/Plex payment counts, and only one person can claim that.
The person whose actions directly lead to introducing new players to the game and getting them to sub is not a contributor - you already specified that.
The ridiculous example of:
is another red herring, having nothing to do with the discussion. We are talking about the contribution dynamics of people who add value to the game by participating, being visible, raising the social profile, providing social interaction (a key driver of retention in MMOs), increasing market activity etc. Bringing up some imaginary “I didn’t troll you, therefore I contributed!” situation has nothing to do with Alphas, Omegas, or financial success of a company.
Same thing with your “everyone contributes to cheating, which causes game failure” comments. Completely made-up red herring unsupported by anything but your need to distract from the weakness of your argument.
Feel free to call up the guys at CCP and let them know they have contributed nothing to the financial success of the company. I’m sure they could use the laugh.
Well maybe CCP could go the way Blizzard did…
I believe it is you can buy a token(plex) with RL money but you can not use it in game…you have to sell it on market(auction House) at the price Blizzard(CCP) has set for it, not players…
Now to get a token(plex) to sub your game without using RL money…you have to buy a Plex(token) from this CCP(Blizzard) market item at the price Blizzard(CCP) has set for it…again not regulated by players for the price but the game company.
Let’s see… should I buy PLEX on market for ~15% more compared to yesterday, due to the NES omega sale this weekend, or just wait for the sale to end… (sigh) Plex was actually starting to calm down.
You’ve got several things wrong here.
Advertising and promotion do not purchase the products, neither directly nor indirectly. They never receive them and thus never have to pay for them. Professional advertising and promotions are a service, for which CCP has to pay for. For sale (and sale’s promotions) is it a bit different depending on the type of product and if it needs to be stocked, prepaid etc… In some cases does sales, i.e. shops, have to buy the products first before they can resell these.
The emphasis lies on “professional”, because not everyone who wants to offer their services to CCP is also getting paid for it. This means the amateur streamer on YouTube may advertise for CCP, but it doesn’t mean he also gets paid by them.
When CCP then has to pay for a professional service are they in fact giving money away. They are then contributing to the financial success of the service provider. These services then don’t give any money back to CCP and therefore do they not contribute to the financial success of CCP. What they give back is a service. They attract customers to CCP’s products who then buy these products and it is again the paying customers who contribute to the financial success, and nobody else is.
If you still cannot believe it then remove the paying customers from your picture and follow the trail of money and see where it is coming from and what remains when CCP is no longer receiving any money.
Also do remind yourself that there are games and game makers, who have no paying customers and who offer their games for free. These free games can be popular and find players without being a financial success or otherwise anyone having made a financial contribution.
Who needs PLEX anyway?
Skill Extractors, Skins, Omega-Time, all are offered, doesn’t mean you have to have it.
It is the waste, impatience and greed of humanity driving the spiral of PLEX price not CCP.
They are just providing the tools and making money out of it 
Lowering the price of PLEX will not help, bots will keep grinding and people will keep wasting.
If you want to help, destroy more ships and stations with an alpha clone
Yesterday, after the sale was announced, a guy listed about 7,000 Plex at the ‘buy order’ price. Unfortunately I was on an alt with little ISK at the time, and by the time I switched to a monied alt, he had pulled the order down. A little later, another guy listed over 10,000 Plex at the ‘buy order’ price (so in both cases, accidentally listing at around 4.1 million rather than the 4.6 million they were selling for).
Point being people who have thousands of Plex they can list by accident while they are busily buying more Plex.
Then people in odd spots started doing things like listing 100 Plex for 4,000,000, then pulling that trade down and listing 10 Plex for 40,000,000… hoping to catch someone who saw the first price but didn’t notice the switch.
So yes indeed, current Plex market is made up of hundreds and perhaps thousands of market traders, busily hoarding all the Plex they can while the price shoots up.
see all of the sales recently,the ship skin sales,omega sale,but not plex sale.
look at the price of plex in jita now,i think the price won’t drop after this omega sale,and CCP successfully reaches the price of plex which would have reached in a few months.
i don’t want to see many pilots,especially the new pilots give up this game.
we need more player playing with us!
there was a plex sale arround the 14th of Februar 2019
not as long back as the last omega sale 
JuuR
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Valentine’s Day discount？
i think this discount isn’t big enough so people didn’t buy it that time.
i guess if this discount comes today,a lot of people will buy it
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I’m not sure we need yet another thread complaining about PLEX prices. This is a player-driven supply and demand issue.
Players who are concerned about this have 4 options:
- Grind more ISK for PLEX
- Go Alpha for a while
- Pay literally 50 cents a day to remain Omega. For us old folks, that’s two games of Pac Man back in the day.
- Quit the game
It’s really that simple.
If you do want to join in the “lively” discussion about this though, this is probably the thread you want:
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CCP announced at Fanfest they are keeping an eye on it. With a team of experts. If it gets out of hand, expect discounts.
If you encounter new players plexing inform them on buying recurring sub it is much cheaper and they can cancel from the website under account. They can use the saved budget to buy extra plex packages!
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The whining about the plex prices and the entitlement of some players who see it as their god given right to play for “free” starts to really annoy me. Plex prices are a matter of demand and supply, period.
New pilots are not that much affected by the high plex prices, most of them can’t make enough ISK to plex anyways. Not now and not a year ago.
I’m pretty sure most people whining about the current situation are those who now have to mine / grind with 8 alts instead of 10. And players with that many alts are mostly totally occupied with themself and don’t interact much with the community anyways. And are part of the problem they whine about.
Edit: And by the way, CCP is just now making a sale on Omega game time, one month suscription costs 425 instead of 500 plex for a limited time. Check your new eden store.
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That’s weird, it seems to me like you’re saying that you want your plex cheaper, for yourself.
Stupid me, getting that wrong.
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@ISD_Sakimura pls can we have one plex prices thread?
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Could just have prex drop randomly as loot as an ultra rare drop then it can be completely player driven haha, becuase its not player driven .
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Just like we have one cloaky camper thread… people sadly feel like they need to be heard, and sadly they’ve realized that when they get funneled into the afk cloaky thread it’s so that we can mostly just ignore them off in their own corner.
I just think it’s hilarious that OP things CCP’s ruining the game because he might have to pay a sub instead of plex his account.
OP, if you think this is true, be the solution. Go buy a few hundred thousand plex and put them on the market. You’ll even get space-rich as a result. Otherwise, quit crying about the problem that you won’t fix.
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I wonder if anyone has even been passed half way on the cloaky camper thread its like a dark dungeon everyone gets thrown down never to be seen again.
It’s like if I wanted to derail this thread all I would have to say is:
Remove local 
and fix cloaky campers plz! boom GG now CCP can’t send it to either dungeon as it would need to go to both at the same time, its like Dividing by 0!
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