I’ve been in X47 for the last 10 hours. It was rocky at first, what with nearly 4500 people in local, but things are shaping up nicely.
While there’s still full TiDi, it only feels like things are slow. Not glitchy. Which is perfectly fine with me. In a word, I’d describe the X47 as “playable”.
Mad props, this was a pretty damn big fight. There was at least 3 metric fucktonnes of fighters on grid. I can’t wait for zkill to catch up, the battle report is probably on par with B-R at this point.
The dynamic has changed for quite a while now though. It is not a case of ISK balance or economic gain/loss anymore. It is about planning capabilities in mass industry output for a multi tiered SRP mechanism where supercapitals and structures are just the same as a frigate or battleship. Tools.
I’m not sure a lot of people have really figured it out yet, but the moment supercap proliferation got out of hand, it could only end in scenario’s of applied economies of scale. Pure and simple. What springs to mind is the attrition dynamics of battleship fleets in the days right after the NPC stations were seeded in nullsec, with their damn shield/sov mechanics.
Whoever figures that out best, and has prepped for momentum for it best, prevails. Everything else becomes irrelevant. The only deciding factor is the ability to maintain momentum as required for streamlined output of mass military industry by applied economies of scale.
Which also should make clear the vulnerabilities.
Now if CCP were to engage on FAX and Rorqual changes, things would be different. But as I understand it, that has been pushed back …
Under a pure mechanistic viewpoint you are correct.
And when we consider this aspect in an isolated way, the outcome of the war seems to be crystal clear: The vastly superior industrial backbone of Imperial Legacy should win the war.
But in reality things are not as easy as they seem.
You don’t only need industrial muscle, you also need pilots in space. You need to keep your pilots motivated to log in and fight the war. You also need to use your industrial power to actually replace the lost ship of Joe Linemember. And you need to make him have fun while all this happens.
It’s a bit more complex than pure economics I fear.
From what I have read, a lot of people had fun. On both sides. The game was playable even under full TiDi and the servers held. So that’s a definite positive.
You can blame the assholes DDOSing CCP’s servers for that. CCP can’t really help that much, they’ve already invested in cloudflare services to help mitigate, that’s about all they can really do. There’s a reason DDOS has been effective since it was first realized.
Regarding total isk loss, Goons and co have lost about 5 trillion, Northern lost about 4 trillion. One hell of a fight, not quite B-R but close. This battle report encompasses a secondary related battle in a different system, as well as the shield timer on the keepstar.
I agree with the sentiment that the isk is secondary in value to time. As said, it takes a LONG time to build and fit 500 capitals.
I think that in terms of morale, both sides gained, because that ■■■■ was certainly fun. My main’s corp lost a couple titans which was sad, but, they died the way a Titan should die - to a hail of gunfire, in a full combat fit.
What can I say… miners aren’t good at fighting. Of course… there are a LOT of miners…
Gotta say I respect the balls of that Molok pilot. Poor bastard lost half a trillion isk because of a DC. That’s the exact reason I fly a regular carrier (or dread) with T1 fighters/guns. Risking isk isn’t so much the problem, losing it to a DC would be worse than a ruined orgasm.
Honestly, time and place. Were it a specialized drop (think blops style, where bling is the norm) I’d totally see it.
Both sides knew that it was going to be a heavy fight. Both sides had spies in fleet, I know that as soon as any titan pilot on our side announced in comms that he had DC’d, he was immediately fired on (TiDi immediately lol), and I know that we knew the second the Molok DC’d so we had spies as well.
Bringing the Molok at all was ballsy but to bling fit it like that… no way, not for that fight. That was just stupid. Of course, we don’t know how much isk he has. That was certainly an expensive loss, but he could easily just shrug and say “meh I could buy 2 or 3 more”.
So, maybe he just didn’t care if it died. As much, at least, as anyone can care about losing half a trillion isk lol.