If they arent a sink, is there any reason they arent retroactively already in existing structures?
ok then i have no idea why the hostility.
But if you can not articulate what you are talking about then what you said is plain gibberish.
Bye.
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Q_Cores add more reasons to buy Leshaks.
@CCP_Dopamine I understand that cores for XL structures now fit in an orca. While this will allow them into c2 wormholes, it wonât allow them into c1 wormholes.
To date I think there have been at least 3 XL structures put up in c1 wormholes. This will no longer be possible after this. Is the intention of CCP that XL structures are banned from c1 wormholes in the future?
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That was one hell of a suggestion. And pretty spot on as a comparison, great post, made me chuckle.
When scoots replies to anything.
Just keep your damn mouth shut.
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If the main problem is abandoned structures. CCP should have made them easier to take down. And some people would have. Theyâre been held hostage to their own short sightedness.
Well your wrong because the plex has an ingame value if they drepreciate that value through their actions for an âEXISTING PURCHASEâ then yes. For example when they changed the broker cost that was on a go forward transaction priceâŚNow imagine if CCP came back and said you have to pay us the increased transaction prices on all of your completed transactions. In essence this is what the were doing.
When player owned stations went away before they COMPENSATED those players with a faction Fortizar (effectively grandfathering those in with a shiny new toy). In this case they made no compensation to those affected and simply said, pay us 50% to double the price of your structure or its gonna die. And oh by the way when you pay or ransom it may die anyways and you will still lose everything because we now made it more profitable to kill your structure.
To make it even worse and more evident the robbery of it all here is the quantum core cost as a percentage of the price of the structure. notice any problems?:
|Astrahus|600,000,000|80%|
|Athanor|700,000,000|120%|
|Raitaru|800,000,000|165%|
|Fortizar|4,000,000,000|46%|
|Tatara|3,500,000,000|61%|
|Azbel|3,000,000,000|91%|
|Keepstar|30,000,000,000|20%|
|Sotiyo|10,000,000,000|33%|
Yes but dude you are forgetting the blue donut wave? Most small corps CANT defend structure and the only thing protecting them is diplomacy or lack of consequence to other corps. Now your making it mandatory to join the blue donut or have wave of corps coming through and killing structures of those that cant defend. So Corp A goes into area with a fleeto f Nestors/Leshaks to hit structures and now has a 10 man dread bomb ready to drop incase the small corp decides to pull of the 5 or 6 caps they have to defendâŚDead structure dead, dead small corp, dead eve
Yes Scoots but you miss one basis concept. You have a right to use them and that right has a stated monetary value supported by RMT transaction via PLEX. As such if they take action that diminishes or takes away the value supported by the RMT transaction behind the PLEX for already COMPLETED transaction then you have a legal slippery slope which is why there have been numerous cases all which get settled by the various companies. Do you know why they get settled? Because the MMO companies do not want a âVerdictâ that has the affect of Law and invalidates all they have done because then Everyone will sue for every step companies have taken that diminish a users value in a service!
PLEX has no real money value.
Itâs clearly stated in the EULA and there is no mechanism for cashing your plex out for money.
So, please, waste your money on a lawsuit that will get laughed at.
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[citation needed]
lemme see some of these âsettledâ lawsuits
Nobody is forcing us to stand behind any ideas, and I personally am skeptical about this one.
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Iâve been reading this back and forth bickering about whether it is a fundamental flaw that small corps or solo players are allowed to use structures, that if you canât defend your structure you donât deserve one, for about a 1000 posts now.
I hate to be the one to point this out, but EVE is fundamentally flawed.
- Sound, in space. That isnât a thing.
- Gravity: evidentally doesnât exist.
- PI: apparently no one lives on planets in New Eden.
Oh, but Derlin, these are just semantic squabbles. Theyâve been explained a billion times. They donât affect game play (though gravity should really impact play. That it doesnât is a big flaw). So:
- Bumping in space: this doesnât do any shield or hull damage? Really?
- Crews: so⌠why do caps have to be so large if there are no crews? Oh, there are crews? So why donât you have to pay them or obtain new crews when you get that carrier blown to smithereens? Oh, there are no crews? Why the hell do the ships have lights coming out of windows then?
- Wars: Why can you pay off the cops so you can indescriminately kill off hundreds of thousands of people everyday in ships and structures? Why then are NPC structures immune?
- Immortality: Yeah, no downside to being killed. Handy. They even eliminated clone grades. Say âthank youâ, gankers.
So we are now bitching about the cromulance of structures being âsuitableâ for particular play styles when completely ignoring that this is literally all determined due to balance changes by the devs. Why donât we see how it goes, and then figure out if something needs to be fixed later and collaboratively work with the devs to make the game more fun for everyone? I know this is crazy talk, but as a solo industrialist that uses NPC stations in hisec, I see nothing but upside for me. But I understand it can be frustrating for those whoâve sunk a bunch of time into the game to afford a station to make their products create better margin.
When it comes down to it, there is no free lunch. Iâve stuck to NPC stations for refining and production and invention. It costs me margin. If I go out in a Skiff instead of a Procurer, I get a better return on my time, but I risk losing 10x my investment for the privilege. Likewise, structures are not a free lunch. They make you extra revenue (usually. If you operate at a loss, you may want to apply as a charity case), but they also make you vulnerable to attack and wardecs. This is a cost of doing business. If it makes work too hard itâll have to be changed. But until then, stop crying before you are hurt.
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That has already been sorted, abandoned structures get blown up as it is easy.
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Thatâs wrong.
They ARE a free lunch when you do diplomacy.
You are not warned by the game when your skiff will get shot by gankers. You can not ask other people to come defend you in time. Thatâs what diplomacy is.
So YES structures are a free lunch. And since they give a very noticeable boost, they are mandatory to remain competitive.
Which means that only big corps can now operate them, and so remain competitive.
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no this is a trash change, CCP catering to gankers isnt a good thing at all
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low effort troll is low effort. welcome to the forever ignore list. almost got me excited because I thought the other guy had replied with a list of lawsuits that settled.
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That is a troll bait post with the inane suggestion that people making observations and reasoned arguments are bitching and trolling. And your lack of understanding on the fact that nullsec competitors will influence your pricing in any case was amusing.
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