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No you can’t. That’s why I read about stuff like that. I couldn’t come up with it myself.

Maybe you should change where you read about that stuff, because it doesn’t seem to have a lot to do with reality

Thank you for your opinion.

You are welcome.

I mean you thought that more particles in the solar system cause the planets to heat up, holy crap, why? Friction? At least that was a new one, pretty hilarious.

Thank you very much for your valued opinion.

And thank you for the entertainment.

If you want we can discuss your opinions about the shape of the earth next

No need, I know it’s flat :rofl:

The really sad thing is, I can’t tell anymore if it is a joke or not

Don’t be sad. We’re having a hilarious conversation. As soon as I can log in I will send you a gift in the game for being such good sport.

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So… the stratosphere is cooling because space is getting colder? But also is getting warmer since it’s heating up the Sun and the planets and everything?

I mean, we already know space it’s cold. But then, the atmosphere of Earth is not done with the stratosphere. Above the stratosphere there is the mesosphere, which is a pretty cold place, and then above that there’s the thermosphere or ionosphere, where temperatures reach up to 1500 ºC.

At this point, to the benefit of anyone legitimely puzzled at what’s going on here, I’ll remind you that temperature is a measurement of the velocity of particles. Thus particles at the ionosphere buzz at extremely high velocities, hence the high temperature, but there are so few particles that they barely transfer any heat.

But back to the regular program… the stratosphere, which is a coldish place, is getting colder as CO2 level raise. The reason is that CO2 is quite good at radiating heat and over there at the stratosphere there is little matter to keep that radiation from reaching space, and thus CO2 losses energy and is colder, and removes energy from anything that collides with it, with the overall effect of reducing the average speed of particles and thus cooling down the stratosphere. Conversely, down here at the troposphere CO2 also is very good at radiating heat, but on average down here at sea level the radiation travels about 14 centimeters before being absorbed. With more CO2, more radiation is bounced back and forth and keeps the troposphere warmer, slowly increasing the average speed of particles and thus warming up the ñayer of the atmosphere that directly influences us with wheather.

There are no external factors. It’s CO2 transfering heat back to the surface and into space at different altitudes. We get warmer, the stratosphere gets colder. Because it’s the CO2.

Global warming it’s us, changing the chemistry of the atmosphere and pretending that this won’t come back to bite us.

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No. That’s not what I stated.

But I’m done explaining. I’m getting bored with this thread.
If you think that I’m posting this because I don’t know what I’m talking about then it’s fine.

You can believe what you want based on your information but give me the courtesy to believe what I want based my information.

I’m not trying to demonstrate that you’re wrong, you’re the one trying to demonstrate that I’m wrong which is an exercise in futility since I know what I read and no one will make me change my mind.

Thank you very much for your valued opinion.

Why would you have believes that are set in stone? Everyone is wrong on a multitude of things. I’m wrong about many things I’m sure, but I just don’t know which ideas I hold are wrong, so I hold them loosely or in many cases I have have multiple possible ideas with different probabilities and I’m not married to any of them. As I learn new things those probabilities change.

There is almost never undeniable evidence for anything and that is most likely true for the ideas you already hold, so why would you make that a condition for changing them?

Because I know I’m right. If I don’t know I’m right on certain things then I’m open to new information and suggestions.

That is true, but everyone is also right on certain things, too.

That’s true for me on certain things. On other things my opinions are solid as tempered steel.

As long as those new things demonstrate to my satisfaction that I should change my mind, and I’m very demanding, on myself and others.

There is undeniable evidence for most things we collectively hold true. Science has helped in that department.

Because I don’t believe most things I read or hear until I can check for myself. If I cannot check, I place them in the “Don’t Know, Must Check” section of my brain.

Again, that’s just me, and I’m not sorry for it.

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That means you are too scared to prove your ideas because of failure and ridicule.

Oh, there is no point to try to reason somebody out of a place they didn’t reason themselves into.

At this point everybody has seen what I can do for my opinion and what you can do for yours.

How I’ve thrown a little fact opposing your opinion and you’ve aleady collapsed into “nanana I can’t hear you nanana”.

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I seriously doubt that. As usual Google can’t provide an answer to how many man-hours or employee count are required per megawatt-hour of production, but nuclear power plants require a lot of specialyzed security and maintenance which aren’t necessary for ordinary thermal plants. Down here in my neck of the woods, one of our oldest nuclear plants is on the way to closure and its head count was 350 personnel while operating, 1,200 during refuel operations, and will require an estimate of 3,000 during certain peak times while decomissioning it. That’s for a 1,000 MWh plant, the second this size that my country will be decomissioning and the first that’s not an emergency decomission (we had to decomisison another 1,000 MWh plant after a serious incident which made security improvements more expensive than just closing it).

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Exactly. And I trust my judgment and reasoning until undeniable proof of the contrary is provided.

How did you check by yourself that the sun and planets are heating up because of particle density?

It isn’t so much the particles density that are causing the entire solar system to heat up, it’s the speed at which the system is moving through them.
The sun and the solar system move at 200 kilometers per second, or at an average speed of 448,000 mph (720,000 km/h). Moving at that speed through that cloud of denser particles creates friction.
Scientists have observed that several bodies in our system are heating up. Some of the Mars’ ice caps are melting. Jupiter, Earth, Venus… Everyone of the planets with an atmosphere are heating up.
There is no doubt that human activity is causing more CO2. But “global warming, climate change” on the scale we’re seeing these days isn’t mainly caused by humans.

Lmao, looked at the science! You guys will look like clowns in the decades to come.

The same “Science” that was closing outdoor activities during Covid, and spraying paint over benchs to stop people from sitting out and enjoying some fresh air.

Even for a simple virus, the SCIENCE was a vast farce, you think those clowns have any idea how to handle and predict the movements of an entire planetary system :joy: :joy: :rofl:

There are financial incentives to keeping the green grift alive, both for funds and for clouts, that’s why there is a consensus, but that consensus is as dumb as the consensus that the Sun revolved around the Earth xD