Remember the "dedicated balance team" ccp promised last summer? CSM member reveals ccp ***canned it

(Shailagh R) #1

This is a freaking mmo. A severely unbalanced mmo for months/years as well.

Everyone remember Ishtars for LITERALLY YEARS WERE OP.


Also drones for years,
Also the rifter was the only t1 frig for half a decade worth using.
Also T3Cruisers brokenly OP for HALF A FREAKING DECADE too





I think the ■■■■ not ccp.

Capsuleers you agree with your csm member that wrote this?

(Anabella Rella) #2

Is your caps lock key intermittently acting up or have you just missed your morning medication dose?

(Mr Lopez) #3

I do understand the sentiment. But I have tempered my expectations with the reality of history. They may have truly intended to have a balance team with frequent updates. But they also have a history of not finishing things… Tiercide how many years has that been?

(Rivr Luzade) #4

*readies the torches and pitch forks market booth: COME HERE! LOOK NO FURTHER FOR YOUR PREFERRED TOOLS OF FRUSTRATION RELIEF! Pitch forks and torches, only 1000 ISK a piece. Step right up! Don’t be shy! Why just tell CCP what you think? Show them! :star_struck:

Considering how underwhelming the so far visible changes on the AF are, that team must not have had any time at all to work on balance. I don’t envy Jin’taan for writing this after that meeting. Learning this and then writing this must have been a blast.

(Erethond) #5

@CCP_Falcon (since you can’t ping CCP_Seagull)
I don’t generally get upset at CCP, but the stagnation of the meta with its few dominant ships is frustrating and chips away at my willingness to invest emotionally, monetarily and time-wise in the game. Although it won’t make me unsub now, it makes me more likely to unsub eventually and I can’t be the only one in this situation.

That’s not good for you. This is a huge step backwards. Disappointing… Making vets less bitter would help player retention, for new and old players alike, as not-bitter vets are the greatest content creators. Come on CCP, you should be able to realize this too…

(Linus Gorp) #6

You forgot the Drake. If you want to complain about a single ship being OP for years, complain about the god damn ■■■■■■■ Drake. It even got its own ■■■■■■■ meme!

(Jonah Gravenstein) #7

Tengu Fleet?

(Algarion Getz) #8

Its almost like they dont want to make a good game.
I mean, they dont put a lot of effort/dev time into PvE content, so PvP content is dominating in EVE. What is essential for good PvP? Balance. A PvP game with bad balance isnt a good game.

(Nana Skalski) #9

Balance is not enough, game needs small reworks, multiple improvements. What is going on with new implants that were announced at fanfest for example?

(Tipa Riot) #10

I don’t understand people, why not enjoying an OP ship while it’s there? Why should every ship in EvE be useful all the time? Balance is an illusion and boring, within imbalance lies the fun.

A way better approach is to rotate, and make a set strong, and in the next cycle, focus on another set and so on. I don’t want to change my ships and fits every 2 weeks. But I’m fine to do so every year.

… preparing to fly AFs exclusively from Feb 13th :wink:

(Matthias Ancaladron) #11

Yeah CCP is the biggest thing getting in ccps way for fixing stuff.

(Matthias Ancaladron) #12

Assault changes won’t be done before Feb. They haven’t even made a thread for it yet like the t3 cruisers rebalance.

(Matthias Ancaladron) #13

Ea exec probably put it on back burner for more skins and microtransactions.

(Nana Skalski) #14

Is she dead?

(Erethond) #15

Not everyone wants to fly to Flavor-of-the-Year(s) ship. People enjoy different play styles and one ship dominating means playing any other way than with that ship and the play style it is most suited for is playing gimped. That’s no fun.

Further, while I agree that stagnation is the worst, it is essentially what the current state of things in EVE. Punctuated by the much too rare shakeup. Worse, it is a stagnating imbalance where a few ships dominate and a lot of others are left in the dust. Having a balance team means things would be shaken more often, which, as you said, would be good for the game and, if we ever get to the mythical “perfect balance”, which we wouldn’t, then at least we would be stagnating in a state where all ships are valid choices instead of one where only a subset of ships are.

And module/ship tiericide needs to be completed so bad!

TL;DR: regular iterations towards balance is better than stagnating in imbalance for years with a few occasional changes.

I don’t know, but typing @CCP_Seagull brings nothing :frowning:

(Chan'aar) #16

The last year has been poor decision after poor decision. The lunatics have finally taken over the asylum. :psyccp:

(Tipa Riot) #17

No lifesign since July 2017 …

(Tiddle Jr) #18

she is on maternity leave

(Nana Skalski) #19

So who is in charge then?

(Tiddle Jr) #20

Team 0 Five atm