How soon after down time did you check
Given you posted just now I’d suggest the belts got cleared already
I checked just now, around 7 am down time was many hours ago, but this is an end of the line system with little traffic so not sure how someone could have mined all of it, did check some random system while flying around and same there nothing in belt, not even the low sec system main toon lives in was empty, sure the belt was sad with the few random rocks thrown out but at least there was something.
since the system is -0.2 i never had Arkonor and some of the other stuff, those are in lower sec systems and i think lowest in Curse is -0.3, maybe going to Great Wildlands and some -0.7 i might find something but 10+ jumps to fill a venture, seems fun.
Looking at the patch note, i think this could be the issue
Removed all variations of Scordite, Plagioclase, Omber, Jaspet, Hemorphite, Hedbergite, Gneiss, Dark Ochre and Crokite.
And if you look at the system on dotlan
The ore i had was the ones they just removed.
No more belts in NS but with sovereignty you can make mining cluster spawn in the system. So yes, you can still mine in NS. Fortunately.
This is crazy.
You have never sov in NPC-0.0, so all Asteroids are removed. I hope this was not intentional…
They should it replaced with some Ore, which are currenlty still on the white list of allowed ores for 0.0
You can add 10+ to that for me, and I too enjoy a good kill, whether in a big fleet in null or solo in a WH. It’s what I joined Eve for, and may it continue unsullied as long as Eve exists.
Confirming, not a single ore in Stain NPC 0.0 belts. maybe it resets after downtime?
Let’s hope not. Mining should be exclusively a high sec activity. Definitely.
Guess they forgot NPC null space, not sure on stain but GW has a few below -0.5 systems not been to them to verify but guess they could still have Arkonor and Mercoxit.
Did check some belts out in Great Wildlands at -0.7 and -0.8 not a whole lot there either.
That was all for that belt.
I checked many belts in NS yesterday and today and many were empty. Some are still ok but the big problem I see is the NPC mining operations harvesting those. Encountered one every 2 systems. With the reduced amount of ore and no possibility to fight those spawns they just move from belt to belt and make the ore disappear.
at least in sov 0.0 we can not complain about the amount of available ore, but it is mostly worthless…lets see how long it takes until the market prices change. the miners in my corp are so happy.
In active systems - yes. Look into inactive or less acitve sov NS systems. You will barely find a belt with ore.
The biggest buff here is to industry players that are smart and ambitious enough to exploit the new opportunities.
Exploiting a garbage dump, no matter how flowery you’d name it, is still exploiting a garbage dump.
IMO, if CCP really wished to improve EVE economy, then they should completely remove the ability for players to multibox.
Seen loads of comments on this thread about people cancelling subs for 4+ accounts, which all are generating passive income for a single person.
Even PvPers most likely have a mining barge or a mission runner ship generating income while they are actually doing something on another client.
The worst part of it all is that they might mention unsubbing, but it’s very likely they are all just buying their PLEX with the isk they farm in-game.
You want an alt? You have two extra char slots in a single account, which you can change to whenever needed, but ONE single player shouldn’t be able to have MULTIPLE characters PLAYING at the SAME TIME!
Even now as I type, there’s one guy with three covetors eating away at a belt while being buffed by his Orca, all part of same corp without even a proper description.
Don’t get me wrong, the IDEA of having set up a personal mining fleet like that surely sounds awesome, and is also a nice return on the investment necessary for it, but at the same time, it’s a detriment to the economy and to the MMO aspect of the game.
I know it’s hopeless to even mention this, as these extra accounts do generate PLEX sales, and talking about multiboxing is like poking a bee’s nest, but it’s still worth pointing to the elephant in the room…
i cancel my subscription today !!!
i will probably fly Venture lol if it blown up no worries
why i OMEGA to fly a ship worth +100M in low sec and i am sure it will be blown before i return the coast of it plus the fit (BIG NO!!!)
Please stop saying sh!t that is so obviously false.
Please understand supply vs. demand. This is a buff to mining, and only a nerf to lazy AFK-miners who refuse to do anything that has any chance of loss.
why i OMEGA to fly a ship worth +100M in low sec and i am sure it will be blown before i return the coast of it plus the fit (BIG NO!!!)
Thank you for the textbook demonstration of the highsec perma-victim mentality.
Please understand supply vs. demand. This is a buff to mining, and only a nerf to lazy AFK-miners who refuse to do anything that has any chance of loss.
ROFLMAO.
Let’s take this slowly. Supply of all minerals declines. Demand, let’s say, stays flat. We don’t know that it will. And in fact, if people leave over this demand will decline. But the best case version of your argument requires demand to stay flat so we will go with that.
In that world, price will increase to a degree and quantity supplied will decline. This is economics 101. So, in other words, less ore will be sold in aggregate at a higher price. What does that mean? It means that for some miners, the best possible outcome is that their isk goes up because of the increase in price and they somehow manage to mine as much as they did despite resource declines.
But in aggregate that cannot be true because total quantity demanded is going to fall at the higher price. So some miners will earn the same or potentially even less isk based on getting less ore per hour such that their earnings drop even with the higher prices.
Now, what is going to happen for the prices of things, well they are also going to go up. But they are going to go up by more than the average price of ore. And the two reasons why are simple. First, hauling will increase and that cost will have to be added to the cost of final goods. Second, destruction of haulers will increase which will reduce the supply of goods further leading to even higher prices. Thus, for miners on average, price inflation will exceed ore inflation, leading to lower purchasing power measured in any way you like.
So on average, miners will be losers from this change. Some will not but, on average, miners will lose.
And that’s simply the monetary discussion. There’s also a gameplay discussion. Miners have lost options (integrated manufacturing), will spend more time on non mining activities (searching and hauling) and, should they choose to try low/null, will be blown up more than they were, also reducing their gameplay fun.
So, no, this isn’t better for miners. It might be better for a small portion of miners but, on average, it is quite clearly worse
It’s actually not Merin…
It is a buff to industry, and market trading if you were to really examine it.
A mining buff would be more like, wow Mining Foreman Boosts now apply to mining drones.
you welcome